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Gordian III / Abgar X From Edessa, Mesopotamia.

 
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 Posted 10/15/2013  7:58 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add ThisIsFun to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
From the Goldberg lot. This makes two Edessa issues in the lot. In general, I prefer provincials over imperials, if I'm going Roman.



MESOPOTMIA, Edessa. Gordian III and Abgar X.
238-244 AD
AE 25, 10.7 gm
Obv: AVTOK M ANT GORDIANOC CEB; Gordian III laureate, draped, and cuirassed bust of Gordian right; star before [not certain of that legend; best guess]
Rev: ABGAROC BACILEUC; crowned and draped bust of Abgar X Phraates right; star behind
Ref: I think it's BMC 144, SNG Cop 225

I was going to post some information about Abgar X Phraates but am not finding good information. If you have any links or sources, please let me know.

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 Posted 10/15/2013  8:18 pm  Show Profile   Check echizento's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I also like the provincials, there seems to be more different reverse type than what is encountered on Roman imperial types. This is a excellent example depicting the emperor with a client king.
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 Posted 10/15/2013  8:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not seen anything like this before - an odd style even for a provincial, very nice indeed.
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 Posted 10/15/2013  9:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
that's my favorite one so far TIF....I dig those provincials also. it looks like a Parthian, roman hybrid...guess it kind of is really. here a interesting write up about Edessa and the abgar dynasty.

http://www.iranicaonline.org/articl...d-century-ad
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 Posted 10/15/2013  10:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think I need to sit down.
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 Posted 10/15/2013  10:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ThisIsFun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the link, Chris :)
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 Posted 10/18/2013  03:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ralfellis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, Edessa is an interesting numismatic location. Is it for sale?

A few notes on Edessa.

A province in northern Syria, a buffer-state between Parthia and Rome.
A line of kings with Parthian heritage (hence the name Phraates), but increasingly looking towards Rome.
Originally Aramaic speaking, but increasingly Greek.

Edessa was reputedly the first city of Christianity.
The Doctrine of Addai legends say that Abgar V was writing to Jesus.
Abgar V is mentioned in Acts 11:28
Thus the Antioch mentioned in Acts may well be Edessa.
All of the Edessan kings wear a crown of thorns.


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Thanks for that info, ralfellis. And to CCF!

Not sure if I'll part with this one. Still sorting through the lot and learning about them.

At some point I will post a list of the ones I would be willing to trade/sell.
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 Posted 10/18/2013  1:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ralfellis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is my best of Edessa. I think it is Abgar X (without looking it up). It is well struck, has a nice patina and fine features.

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Interesting coin, nice pick up!
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 Posted 10/18/2013  2:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ThisIsFun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ralfellis-- that is a beauty! Is the obverse Gordian III?
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 Posted 10/19/2013  1:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ralfellis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Yes, it is Gordian III, like most of these coins. Most of them came from a cache discovered at Dura Europos, which is why many are of the same era. It is also how they arrived in Europe, because Turkey would not allow it.




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Incidentally, some of the coins of Wael have the legend 'Alh Alul', and nobody appears to know what it means. I believe the correct translation is Alh Algl, and it refers to Lord Alagabal (Lord Elagabal). The same sacred stone that was venerated by Emperor Elagabalus - the Elagabal.

The reason for thinking so, is that the 'cubic betyl' on some of the coins of King Wael is not a betyl at all, it is a wooden box that contained the betyl. Thus the box was the original 'bethel', or house of god - a box containing the lithic cultic figure. (Hence the name betyl for a stone.)

So this box was simply a copy of the Ark of the Covenant - a box containing sacred stones. The evidence for this is the inscription from Sogmatar, indicating that an Ark of the Covenant was sited at the sacred hill there in the 2nd or 3rd century.


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Ralph-- that is a beautiful coin, thanks for showing the other side.

I have an interest in the sacred stone of Elagabal although I hadn't started any deep research-- so thank you so much for that very interesting information!
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