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2007 Adams Double Stamped Error

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 Posted 06/24/2007  10:19 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Guido to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
There are a lot of these double stamps out there, but very few of these kind where both stamps can be completely read. But, the price has gone crazy with this last one. I have been watching them, but I am amazed at what people are doing with these:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...73&rd=1&rd=1

And, this isn't even the best example I have seen.

Last week one of these sold for $622. Now, three times that!!

What do you guys think the future value of this kind of double stamp will be worth? They seem to be very rare and the demand seems to be because you can read all the letters without any overlapping.
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 Posted 06/24/2007  10:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Future value...minimal, considering it's not on the obverse or reverse of the coin and that this is a very modern issue that's still being minted. Who knows how many of these could surface? 100? 1000? More?
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 Posted 06/24/2007  10:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Guido to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It seems that because the two strikes are very clear that they are more in demand verses the other types that are overstruck or reverse struck. And I guess the real question will be what the mint does about this, or was it their intent in order to spur more interest in these coins and the entire series.
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 Posted 06/25/2007  12:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Okay, they aren't 'stamps' and they aren't 'strikes'...the lettered design on the edge of the coin was rolled into the edge with pressure. If the coin is fed through the roller twice, you get doubled lettering.
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 Posted 06/25/2007  10:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CPChicago to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That would be very cool to find. But, another question. If people are willing to pay for that now, how many of us would sell the coin? I've seen discussions of people not wanting to rip others off but if somebody is going to give me $1,800 for a $1 coin, I think I'd let them. Plus, what if it's only worth $50 in the future, would you be kicking yourself later?
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 Posted 06/25/2007  1:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errorcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have collected major errors for over seven years and know pricing very well.

These dollar errors are so overpriced it blows me away. It is because the press and general public have "heard" about the dollar errors. Yes they are mint errors.

There is a lot of money going into this hyper inflated "error dollar" coin market, possibly taking money away from other more major errors?

My searches are now harder.

As a Major error collector, I own NO prez dollars errors.

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 Posted 06/25/2007  3:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CPChicago to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Based on your thoughts Errorcoins, if one wanted to make a big profit, now is the time to do it. If it is ethically correct, that is something we each would have to go through on our own. If you found some Presidential dollar errors on your own, would you keep them? I tend to say yes, since you are an error collector, but you wouldn't sell them or buy them, but part of me says no since you seem to be against the idea.
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 Posted 06/25/2007  4:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Guido to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok, Coppercoins, rolled it is. Sorry for the wrong use of words.

This whole thing reminds me of the 20th anniversary silver eagle sets. Those prices have gone nuts as well.

If I had one of these coins, I'd sell it on ebay. So long as I don't mis-lead people, then the demand will set the price.

I don't know how many of these there will be, but based on the numbers on ebay I don't think there will be that many. In order to get that almost perfect "roll" to show both sets of letters twice takes quite a bit of luck, I think. Based on the fact that they are errors to begin with, you have to try and figure out how many errors there are (thousands or maybe tens of thousands) and subtract all the reversed doubles, and the overlapping doubles, which most of them are. That leaves a very small percentage of perfectly rolled doubles going the same direction with no overlapping. The mint has to be aware of this and working on fixing it, but who knows. If they keep producing these coins, the number of errors will probably continue to increase, but at what percentage of the overall population. Also, I heard that they were finding these errors and melting them down to re-use the metal for future coins.

It is one of the neatest looking coins I've seen, though, regardless of the price.
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I feel that this error is too common to command such a high ending price. Even if it is perfect or near perfect doubling without overlap. I personally like the obstructed die Adams coin I found, and am selling, more than the double stamped coins. I think the double stamped coins value will drop just as the value for the smooth rim Washington dollars has dropepd as well.
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 Posted 06/25/2007  6:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errorcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Craig, it is an error so is is ethically correct to sell them as error and for whatever people bid them up to. If I had some I would sell all of them NOW except one.

Guido, not the same as the 20th Ann SAE sets, that's a whole different animal with a different following and its SILVER. The double error is ok, but for me, I like unique error coins that scream error and eye appeal when seen at any distance.


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 Posted 06/25/2007  10:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CPChicago to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm with you on that Errorcoins, I would sell all but one. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and knowledge ... ... you've enlightened this newbie
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 Posted 06/27/2007  10:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Guido to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Error,

What I meant was the feeding frenzy regarding the 20th anniversary sets. I was not comparing the type of coin or anything like that, only the craziness of what people are paying. I think some people will get stuck on these error coins, but then, you never know. Only time will tell.

Sleak,

That was the point of my post, regarding the perfect (or near perfect) doubling. I don't think there will be that many of those specific ones, which would allow there to be a premium on them in the future. But, these prices are really nuts to me. Even $600 for one of these coins seems like a lot.
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If I find one I'd sell it for $1800 in a heartbeat. That's just way overpriced IMO.
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 Posted 06/28/2007  3:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lonnie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Way, way overpriced. Wait about a month or two, and I bet they come doen less than $100.

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Well if it is like the other errors it could be up to a whole production bin (150k or something). Or it could very well be just a small lot of I think 50k coins that were run twice by mistake. Say it was just a 50k bin if only 1/2 a percent of them do the double lettering perfectly it would be about 250 coins.

We'll have to wait and see. I keep buying every roll I find that has come from the Fed in Atlanta trying to find some of the errors.
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I can't remember how it goes, but it's something like.

If an antique dealer says it's extremely scarce, they have one in the back.
If they say it's extremely rare, they have lots in the garage.
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