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So I Got Taken--Ebay Seller Used Another's Pictures.

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 Posted 01/16/2014  1:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bassmaster, yes I contacted both the seller I dealt with, as well as the seller who had their photo stolen.
I have not heard back from the seller who bait-and-switched me. This will be my first neg feedback I've left.
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 Posted 01/16/2014  1:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bassmaster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Okay, how long has it been since you sent the message?
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 Posted 01/16/2014  2:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wouldn't even wait. There is no possible scenario where this could have been an honest mistake by the seller. It is blatant and deserves a negative feedback to warn others. Sellers like this one need to be called out into the open. That's part of what the feedback system is for.
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 Posted 01/16/2014  2:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I sent the messages a day ago. I'm willing to wait a little more, if only to confront the seller about hijacking those pics.
Initially, when I emailed the seller, I didn't know about the hijacked pictures--I was just seeking a return/refund--but things are different now.
I'm not going to get drawn into some long-winded dispute--it's enough to write about it here--feedback coming soon.
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 Posted 01/16/2014  10:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Check out the exchange between me and the seller. Is this person clueless or just shifty/stupid (bad combination)

Me: "Actually, since I contacted you I discovered the image was taken from another ebay auction.
I may decide to file a claim with ebay and leave feedback so other collectors are informed."

Seller: "I don't understand what you are accusing me of since I googled the coin image and this was one of the options. I have no idea HOW or WHY I would take an image from another auction."
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 Posted 01/16/2014  10:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arianzo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Send him the link.
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 Posted 01/16/2014  11:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, I did that too. Seems the seller needs reality explained to him, but I'm losing patience.
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 Posted 01/17/2014  09:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bassmaster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, he have a low number of feedback or something?
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 Posted 01/17/2014  09:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Seller: "I don't understand what you are accusing me of since I googled the coin image and this was one of the options. I have no idea HOW or WHY I would take an image from another auction."


That's kind of scary. My reply would have been, "Do you *genuinely* not understand why using images of someone else's coin is dishonest?"
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 Posted 01/17/2014  10:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
IMHO he's trying to play, 'dumb like fox.' Either way he loses. He can "claim" that he innocently is using a randomly googled (code for ' ebay search') stock photo, but then he has to say it's a stock photo in the listing, AND say that it's not the coin you will receive. If he wants to go that route he also needed to vet the photo to make sure he wasn't infringing. Bottom line is, he sent you a different coin than was shown and it was misleading. Mind boggling how he could have that many sales and not have a worse feedback rating.
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 Posted 01/17/2014  10:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Mind boggling how he could have that many sales and not have a worse feedback rating.


It's easier to wrap your mind around when you understand the level of sophistication (actually, the "lack of") of a large majority of coin buyers. And it's only getting worse with the exodus of so many knowledgeable buyers from ebay, for reasons like this seller. Nobody knows better, basically, and those who do are too "nice" to slap the seller the way he deserves.

So much for my objectivity.
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 Posted 01/17/2014  1:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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That's kind of scary. My reply would have been, "Do you *genuinely* not understand why using images of someone else's coin is dishonest?"
That's almost verbatim what I asked him. Dunno if this seller's head is screwed on tight.
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 Posted 01/17/2014  3:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My thought is this seller's head is screwed on crook(ed).
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 Posted 01/17/2014  7:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arianzo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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That's kind of scary. My reply would have been, "Do you *genuinely* not understand why using images of someone else's coin is dishonest?"

That's almost verbatim what I asked him. Dunno if this seller's head is screwed on tight.


There are 2 problems here.

One problem is the fact of taking someone else's image that is like a copyright infraction and you can say that to any kind of item, electronic, household, etc.

But the second problem here is that with most coins, we need the image of the exact coin we are going to buy because every coin is different. If I'm buying an Iphone or a TV, I don't care if the image is the same that I'll receive as all of the items are identical.
Maybe the seller is not aware of the second problem.
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 Posted 01/17/2014  8:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe that, like stamps, when you post an image it has to be the image of the item you are selling.
Now some people post stock images for "lots", when they have multiples, and that is okay.
But ebay says a picture is all you really need, so the image has to be of the one you are selling.
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