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 Posted 04/13/2014  9:30 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add plonker to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I had this 2 marks for some time and the surface of the coin is totally different to any other coin I have seen. The coins obverse seems to be shiny and almost has a look of wood lacquer finish. I don't think I am able to capture the look and feel with my photography. Any idea what cause the coin to be shiny like this ?







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 Posted 04/13/2014  11:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rdwarrior to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have the 5 mark version of this coin with what I would describe as the same funny surfaces, I always thought it was due to an old cleaning, but otherwise it is in high XF to AU condition. I will be interested to hear if anyone has another opinion.
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 Posted 04/14/2014  03:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree - re-toning after a cleaning of some sort which happened many years ago.
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 Posted 04/14/2014  8:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PatAR to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is that rough looking area on the obverse (6 to 9 o'clock) tacky/sticky in any way? Or is it just light areas of wear showing through?

I've seen quite a few coins that had either been cleaned and retoned or which simply gathered dust and debris that combined with oils from people's skin to develop a dark appearance as seen on the reverse (eagle) of the coin you showed.

Whether relevant to this coin or not, it may be interesting to note that collectors have put all kinds of things on their coins in the past with the intent of protecting them (though seldom with the desired result).

You mentioned lacquer and, in fact, many coins were lacquered in the past. In fact, I think this practice might still occur among collectors of old medals.

This is by no means a recommendation. I just thought the information interesting and worth sharing.
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 Posted 04/14/2014  9:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The dark glossy obverse with wear and a nearly uncirculated reverse reminds me of one I used to own. My example was mounted in a sterling silver pin and it appeared that the obverse had been lightly polished a number of times. I have seen a few of these 2 Mark coins mounted in pins of various types so it must have been a popular thing to do at the time.


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 Posted 04/15/2014  11:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PatAR to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Neat!
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 Posted 04/16/2014  9:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add plonker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks all, I didn't know lacquer was applied on coins in the past. Looking at the mintage I see that there were matte proof of this. Does anyone know what matte proof surface suppose to look like ?
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