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Speaking Of Tooling, 1826 Capped Bust Half

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What are your thoughts concerning this 1826 capped bust half dollar Dollar? There was a very senior member of another forum who was extremely adamant in his opinions...

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 Posted 08/11/2007  1:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spider5689 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can't see too well, can you post a larger picture?
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 Posted 08/11/2007  1:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Benji to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The hair, cap, and eagle's eye look questionable. I like the skin though.
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Benji you have better eyes than I have. I only see the hair as being questionable.
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Looks like some re-engraving of the wavy hair. Also evidence that the tool slipped just to the east of the clasp.
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Tooled...and quite nicely, I might add. Lowers the conventional "value," but doesn't lower my esteem.
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OKay , as you may have noticed it's slabbed. Here is what ANACS had to say about it.
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 Posted 08/11/2007  1:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What do you think, bonedigger?
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To be honest, I've seen other 1826 CBHs; O-111's and the hair is very defined on the other specimens but they were in far worse condition. I sent the pictures to a couple of members of the Bust Half Nut Club (Joe G. and Edgar S.) and they said there appears to be nothing "unusual or sinister" about the coin and that they both feel it's easily in the (top five) grade wise for the date and variety (R2 or 3). But that without looking at the coin in hand (cracked out of the holder) it would be impossible to be sure. Pictures don't give you the three-dimensional feel...

also add I'm just waiting for my collection to get a final attribution by (Steve H. BHNC in Denver) so I can qualify for membership. The trouble is the trip down to Denver 500 miles, 9 hours with lots of road construction, and $3 a gallon gas, LOL...

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At first look without seeing the ANACS slab, I felt that there were a few areas in the hairlines that may have been retooled. I have to say that I'm surprised that ANACS wouldn't have caught it, though, especially since they slab problem coins. I have to say that I think ANACS made a mistake with this one.
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Ah, finally found it. Here is the 4th edition Overton Example provided. The curls are very well defined but the coin shown is in worse condition than the one I've posted. It's not going to change your opinion but I tried... LOL
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Well Bonedigger, If Joe and Mr Saunders say it's legit then I would take that as gospel. I would consider those two the authority on CB50c. I still find it peculiar that the hair is so well defined considering wear and die state...as evident on this variety on your example and the published example in lesser condition?

Edit to add: A preemptive congrats on the BHNC...100 die marriages is quite an accomplishment. Good luck on the attributions and grades.
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They don't know it yet but I'm going to be in the top 5 experts on the series. Already may be, Trust me Edgar S. was really surprised at my Blue Collar Bust Half Dollar Set (BCBHDS) collection when he checked out my collection hosted on this site., LOL...
http://www.coincommunity.org/galler...hp?album=157


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My initial reaction was that the hair, particularly in the mid-region, seemed too good to be true, but when bonafide experts in the series say all is copacetic, it's very hard for me to say otherwise.
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My vote (based only on review of the image) is that she's not been tooled. The O-111 is an R2. Nice coin! One of these days I should put mine up on this site. Need to get busy with attributions as I have 1500 or so that are not attributed. I was hoping to keep the hoard growing but I maytake a pause. If I shed some, I could dabble in the early coppers....
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Well Bonedigger, If Joe and Mr Saunders say it's legit then I would take that as gospel.

I agree with this statement. I didn't realize until now that you and I were typing at the same time Ben. Also, I do not claim to be an expert. I am sort of a jack-of-all-trades when it comes to coins. I know a little about a lot of different series, but have not truly specialized in any of them.

As such, I know that you are focusing on this series and, I'm sure, have already passed me in the knowledge you have acquired. I have a lot of respect for your knowledge and Joe was the one who got me interested in the series in the first place. I respect him a great deal. I would have to say that the coin is not tooled.
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