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New Member
Paraguay
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I found this coin burried 60-70 centimeters from the surface, and I can't identify a similar coin in the archive of royal french coins. Please help me. I can read the following: "HENRI.IIII.R.DE.FRANET.NAVARE"   |
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Germany
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Looks too new to be a coin from 1572-1610, too round. Also the bit of metal at the top seems to suggest it was attached to something, might just be some kind or ornament from the last 150 years or so.
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Valued Member
Norway
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The design also looks a bit to well made. The coinage from this period didn't have that good portraits/details.
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New Member
 Paraguay
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Good point guys. I also thought it was a kind of medal when I first saw it, for the little broken thing on the top. Any suggestion of how can I clean the coin without damage it? Thanks for the help guys! :D
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New Member
Paraguay
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The size of the coin is just 2.5 cm diameter and 1 mm thick   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
Edited by thq
08/28/2014 09:23 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Educate me: What ecus d'or carried the legend POSVI DEVM ADIVTOREM MEUM? I associate that with English silver, not French gold!
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Austria
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This is a modern medal in my opinion or a crude fantasy issue.
Probably not made of gold. Seems to be silver plated.
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United States
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Here's something interesting: http://www.detecteur.net/forum/henr...-t12969.htmlIn this discussion from a French metal detectorist forum, the photo is clearly of the same obverse as this coin, a modern reproduction of the obverse of a 17th century double tournois of Henri IV, with a mintmark D below the bust, for Lyon. The reverse of their coin, however, is described as having the legend LUDOUICUS DEI GRA IHRLM Z SICIL REX. This title belonged to Louis II of Anjou ("King of Jerusalem and Sicily"), and was used on the 14th century ecu d'or minted for him as Count of Provence. Guess what? I'm finding references (though not yet a pic) that some of these Provençal ecus of Louis, though otherwise styled after the ecu d'or of the French king, replaced the standard legend with Louis II's motto, POSUI DEUM ADIUTOREM MEUM, the only coins to bear this motto outside of England. It looks like some maker of French coin reproductions muled their Henri IV obverse with their ecu d'or of Louis II, Count of Provence, once with the obverse, and once with the reverse! Edited by philadelphian
08/30/2014 8:45 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Had to resort to a really ancient text for an image of this rare ecu of Louis II, Count of Provence. Here it is, with the other, standard ecu d'or below it.  |
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Paraguay
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Amazing finding Philadelphian, so far we know It's a repro coin from 1800-1900 maybe?, it seems to be made of gold, but I don't sure, I will keep looking for more info, Thanks guys! PS: look to this image http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89...I_le_Fou.jpg Do you think that is very similar to the Charles VI coin? |
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United States
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Still don't think it's gold, and I'm thinking it's probably 20th century.
You're right about the design. Provence was not yet part of the kingdom of France, but Louis II belonged to a cadet branch of the royal House of Valois. The design of these coins, with the crowned shield and croix fleurdelysée was taken directly from the new coin of King Charles VI of France, the ecu d'or a la couronne. The legends are different, and the arms are those of the Valois-Anjou Counts of Provence.
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08/31/2014 1:26 pm
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