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I recently purchased this coin because I liked it. It was unusual (to me) because I didn't recognise any of the names. (There was a Gargonius that was a moneyer.) Roman Republic - Family Gargonius, Ogulnius and Vergilius GAR OGVL VER Series Anonymous AR Denarius. Rome, 86 BC. Laureate head of Apollo right / Jupiter driving quadriga right, holding reins and preparing to hurl thunderbolt. Crawford 350A/2; Syd 723; RSC (Anonymous) 226. 18mm, 3.67g, Can anyone enlighten me further on what I have written here, please?  
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 Nice TC. I once read somewhere that people would sometimes strike off parts of older heavy denarii to keep the weight in line with the then current weight standards for denarii. This was only for Republican denarii though. I will have to find that article again.  |
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When this coin was struck 86 BCE Sulla was kicking the crap out of mithridates in the 1st mithradatic war.- Fun fact
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Thanks, A.M.
Interesting! If you can find that reference I would be interested in reading it because it seems as though a piece has been (forcibly) removed from the 'meatiest' part of the coin (as opposed to general wear).
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Sear comments on this one (#266 in the current edition):
Although obviously connected by type with the signed denarii of Gargonius, Ogulnius and Vergilius the reason for this exceptionally late issue of anonymous coins is unclear.
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Edited by Augustus Maximus
12/28/2014 6:35 pm
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Thanks, Med. I didn't get that from the 'Wildwinds' reference I looked up.
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A.M. - GREAT! Thanks for looking that up.
I had a quick look. Didn't find it. Any closer clue, please?
I will read the whole thing (in time).
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It is a few sentences under the heading "Clive Stannard: Papers on mint techniques"
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.... and under "The adjustment al marco of the weight of Roman Republican denarii blanks by gouging"
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Terriffic. Thanks A.M. I did find it in the end. 'Al Marco'
I want to read the whole article, now.
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Now I can see why the weights of the Denarii are all over the place, if the moneyers didn't pay much attention to getting an 'average' weight of each flan anywhere near the same.
This, (of course), would have applied to all coins, at least up to this period. (even back to the Obols, of Greece, I am guessing.)
Tres interessante.
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I love the style of this piece. Very interesting.
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nice one indeed TC, the details are very sharp, especially on the obverse. all the more interesting that it as been weight adjusted.
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@TC I am very sure they stopped this practice during the Imperial period though.
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Does the 'gouging' make this coin more collectable?
I confess that any that I have looked at on 'Wildwinds' (and the like) have not been 'gouged', so I cannot compare the value.
Does the 'gouging' give the coin it's own Sears (or similar) number? (I suspect not.)
Edited by Topcat7
12/29/2014 01:51 am
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Posted 12/28/2014 6:15 pm
