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1787 Fugio Cent Advice

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 Posted 04/06/2015  8:39 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Kfill to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Got this one back from certification decided to see if I could get some advice from some much more knowledgeable people on value based on grade and details it received. Thanks

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 Posted 04/06/2015  8:42 pm  Show Profile   Check thedollarman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add thedollarman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would crack that coin out and treat it with coin care or send it out to a TPG that does conservation
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 Posted 04/06/2015  8:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ummm I'm not a copperhead but my guess is they are going to say crack, verdicare, resub?...
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Hahahahaha, that's funny u beat me to the post dollarman
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 Posted 04/06/2015  9:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think the TPGs that perform conservation will crack it out for you, which saves you the risk. They do a good job at conservation, when completed it should look just like mine.
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 Posted 04/06/2015  9:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Celticsoul to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Kfill. You've come to the right place. I'm one of the resident copperheads here on the forum. Sorry about the bad slab news. ANACS have been real sticklers lately. (That's a good thing.)
I agree with the others that this coin needs some conservation. With a little TLC you can get most if not all the green corrosion off this coin safely with out actually cleaning the coin and rendering it valueless. A lot of large cent collectors use a conservation fluid called Verdi-Care that was developed by a fellow numismatist, professional chemist and CCF member BadThad.
Verdi-Care is not a cleaning fluid so don't expect miracles but the stuff works extremely well. (In fact I have a large cent soaking in some now.)
After years of trying to get rid of verdigris we have come up with a process of soaking in distilled water, then soaking in acetone and then soaking in Verdi-Care. Here is a previous link describing the process.
https://goccf.com/t/90297
Considering that the coin is bent it will always be a "details" coin but at least you can get the verdigris off the coin that is eating it as we speak.
Good Luck.
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04/06/2015 9:19 pm
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Thanks For all yall info and advice.
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I had a dealer look at the Fuego and a 1922 no D cent, and was told the Fuego wasnt worth more than a 100 in its shape not to spend money on it. I was sending the 22 anyway so I sent the Fuego in as well just to see. My question is if I send it to one of the top 2 grading services I will have to join them and then pay cleaning and grading fee and in another 100 on the coin. Is the value of it after cleaning going to be worth enough to justify doing that or just get what I can out of it as is? Thanks
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Specify that you want the coin conserved, the coin will be worth more after conservation and it is defineitly worth spending money on it cause you're saving history. BTW if spelled fugio ;)
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 Posted 04/06/2015  10:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kfill to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks
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After years of trying to get rid of verdigris we have come up with a process of soaking in distilled water, then soaking in acetone and then soaking in Verdi-Care. Here is a previous link describing the process.
http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/...PIC_ID=90297


Note from that thread that the only reason treatment other than Verdicare was recommended was because the coin had issues aside verdigris.
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It's actually FUGIO.

Welcome to the CCF Kfill and nice coin.
They covered basically everything except one thing I noticed.
It appears corroded and once cleaned..which ANACS almost never attributes.
Its retoned nicely but hard to grade from these photos.
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Thanks to all for the info and advice on coin.
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Cool Fugio!
I agree with all of the above comments. Good luck and it would be great to see after pics.
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You have more to complain about than ANACS' grade, Kfill. They've attributed the die variety as Newman 11-X; it's neither 11, nor X. The word YOUR, with the slightly high O and very low U and R peg the obverse as 12. The pic here makes the reverse a little harder to attribute, but of the seven possibilities, I would choose S (or possibly M, unless you could supply a better pic!) The orientation of WE ARE ONE rules out X completely.
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 Posted 04/10/2015  06:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Celticsoul to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I never thought to question the attribution.
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