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1920 Wheat Error. Value And Grade

 
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 Posted 04/20/2015  6:36 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add makescents9 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I know not the best pics I am looking to buy this what do you think the value is on this coin. Grade?



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 Posted 04/20/2015  6:41 pm  Show Profile   Check thedollarman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add thedollarman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
wowsers, a nice and early red clipped planchet cent. this is caused by the punch that cuts the round blanks for coins out of a strip accidentally clipping an already cut blank.
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 Posted 04/20/2015  6:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverStackerKid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No idea on value but super awesome coin. That is beautiful and super amazing with the clip.
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 Posted 04/20/2015  6:42 pm  Show Profile   Check thedollarman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add thedollarman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can not help on a value sadly..
feel free to call me Will. I'm a 19 year old collector from the GTA area of Ontario.

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 Posted 04/20/2015  6:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it is the real deal, it is worth a lot, but if not, it would be a damaged coin. Images of the devices near the clipped area would be helpful and the opposite rim area would be great image to see in a better image.
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 Posted 04/20/2015  6:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From what I can see, the rims nearest the cut look appropriate for a clip. However, due to what is called the Blakesly Effect, there should be visible weakening of the rim structure directly opposite the clip, and it seems that doesn't exist here.

So the jury remains out because there's insufficient photographic evidence to be sure either way. Clipped Lincoln Wheat Cents are rare enough to be worth faking.
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 Posted 04/20/2015  6:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add makescents9 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it's real what is it worth
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 Posted 04/20/2015  7:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Let's decide if it's real first.
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 Posted 04/20/2015  7:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BlueSolo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, I'd love to see clearer pictures. Specifically near "UNUM" and the bottom of the left wheat stock. Neat coin in some nice condition!
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 Posted 04/20/2015  7:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverStackerKid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
But SsDd. THe Blakesly Effect does not always apply.
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 Posted 04/20/2015  7:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Maybe not, But close ups to help determine either way would be extremely helpful.


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 Posted 04/20/2015  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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But SsDd. THe Blakesly Effect does not always apply.


I'm aware that a strong-enough strike can offset the failure of the upsetting process, and the collar forms the rim itself. How strong is this strike?


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So the jury remains out because there's insufficient photographic evidence to be sure either way.
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 Posted 04/20/2015  8:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
But sometimes it only happens on one edge of the coin. So I'm waiting for better images.

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Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

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 Posted 04/21/2015  02:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add makescents9 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is it worth $50 that's what this guy wants I will try to get better pics
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 Posted 04/21/2015  03:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ErrorCoins222 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think it's safe to say that it is a genuine clip. I have yet to see a "faked" clip on an otherwise normal unc/au coin, that even remotely resembled a genuine error.

I would say this error is closer to the $30-35 range, but what are the odds that you'll find another of this date, mint in this condition, and cheaper? You may have to wait a long time. If you need it, buy it.
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 Posted 04/21/2015  06:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is an incompleat planchet and check ebay sold values foe an idea of current value.
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