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I'm curious what people think of this 1971-D Eisenhower. It seems odd how the doubling seems to be clockwise rotation of the letters. Doesn't look like typical Machine Doubling to me.    |
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Oh jbuck, you have a message  |
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That's Mechanical Doubling -- note how it appears flat and shelf-like. No premium value for but good pics! |
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NICE pics. But sadly, it is MD.
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The corners of the angled letters are proof positive - only MD follows around the corner. Actual doubling would show a notch there because there would be two actual letters.
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Machine Doubling reduces the overall size of the devices. Hub doubling enlarges the devices.  Compare your coin with the differences shown above. Note how your devices are reduced by the machine damage on your coin.
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I figured it was something like MD, but the rotated appearance throws me off. I can visualize the die chattering to one side like your first picture Coop, but I'm having trouble visualizing the die bouncing such that the bottom right corners of adjacent letters end up in the correct spots and the doubling widens toward the rim. Does that make sense? It's clear on the F and A how the shelving widens towards the rim. Well, I thought it was interesting. That coin's been in my "junk" box since I was a kid and I was messing around with the new loupe today and noticed it. Thanks for the replies.
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The die doesn't necessarily bounce with md, it is caused by a worn die.
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Hey coop, I assume that doubled die pic you have on the far right is taken from an '83 DDR cent? |
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The Machine Doubling is all machine issue. There are many different forms of Machine Doubling, but all names are now just the cause: Machine Doubling (damage to the coins devices) Die wear is an entirely different issue. The coins are all three 1983 cents. The movement of the dies can be in one or more directions depending on the looseness of the machines die mechanism.    Reverse die was normal, no MD. |
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Looks like die wear is the culprit. Image on left is MS66 example; if your wear down metal on the right side of the ridges in "OF AM" it looks like you get my coin.  My 1972 has "common" MD like Coop's example all over the place so I guess it's pretty normal. |
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Oh jbuck, you have a message I love the Eisenhower dollars, but I defer variety and error attribution to the experts.  |
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I defer variety and error attribution to the experts I am glad to hear you say that jbuck, I look forward to learning from your attributions. |
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I look forward to learning from your attributions. You may be waiting a while.  Meanwhile, follow Coop as he posts his commentary. Also, the links in his signature are a worth the time. |
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Posted 04/16/2015 7:53 pm
good pictures, but its just 
