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I know this has probably been discussed before, but as I was going through some nickel rolls today I found a 1941S Jefferson.
It has a dark black mostly all over the coin, Should I put it in
Acetone? for how long? Do you think it can be taken off?
Thanks for your responses.SHAFTA9a
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 Posted 01/07/2008  4:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim1953 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not sure it will help, but it should not hurt it.
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Thanks, Jim, How long do you think I should leave it in?

Is there anything else I could use to take off the blackness?
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Wonder what couses that.I've got a 64 Kennedy half and some dimes that are completely black.
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It is probably oxidation. If so, acetone is not going to help. I would try it for about 10 minutes the first time. In actuality, I have let some coins set for days at a time. In pure acetone, I have never had a problem. If you have a junk coin that has black on it, try the acetone and if it does not help, try a silver polish. My guess is it will turn bright white (don't use anything worth keeping). You will at least know what you are dealing with.

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Thanks, again, for the info Jim.
The silver polish helped it look a bit better.
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More than likely the dark discoloration is a Silver Compound. That would indicate the Silver has combined with one of many other elements to form this contamination. Silver readily combines with N, O, F, S types of elements although in combinations as a general rule. The most common and the one that is usually black is the AgNO3, Silver Nitrate. Also, it could be AgF if in an area where Fluorine is utilized such as in swimmin pools. Also, in some areas where there used to be or still is steel mills, Sulfur in the air mixes with moisture, SO or SO2 + H OH to form H2SO3 or SO4 which also attacks Silver to form Ag2(SO5)3, Silver Persulfate.
The problem is the Silver has now combined with something to form the black substance and when removed, so goes some of the Silver.
Prior to Stainless Steel Cookware, where Silver was used people used to go nuts constantly cleaning with cleaners like Tar-X.
If you have no real concern of the coins value, Tar-X will remove that stuff. And some of the Silver also.
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Make a small tray out of aluminum foil. Put it in your sink.

Place your black silver coins at the bottom of it.

Boil a cup of distilled water and move it over the sink.

Add in 1/4 cup of baking soda. Do it quickly because it will start to foam over like crazy. Make sure you're still over the sink!

Pour the water and soda over the coin and leave for about 10 minutes. Remove and wash the coin off with distilled water.

The small electrical current that you just created will restore some the silver nitrate back into the original silver!
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 Posted 01/08/2008  2:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim1953 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Vaslin, were you on "Young Frankenstein"?

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Thanks, again for all the info!

carl... Were you a Scientist?
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