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 Posted 10/26/2015  10:22 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add missroma to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi,
How can I report a guy selling on ebay an Ancient Gold of Dacia,Koson?
Kosons are gold ancient coins illegally excavated from the archaeological site Sarmizegetusa Regia,in Romania.
The site is an UNESCO declared protected site.
The coins,from the era of king Koson(1st Century B.C.)were stolen from the archaeological site.
In 2010 Horia Camil Radu was arrested by British authorities while he was heading to Germany with 160 Dacian,Byzantine and Roman Gold coins.
Testes conducted by British Museum experts showed that 145 of the coins were part of a Dacian Treasure stolen from Sarmizegetusa,an UNESCO Heritage site.
My question;HOW can I report this guy that are selling right now on ebay Dacian Gold Koson?Help me to report him,please !
The seller name is gcname ,Buy it now $2650.Location in Italy(I think).
This is a Koson picture:

Stolen-Ancient-Gold-Koson
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10/26/2015 10:26 am
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 Posted 10/26/2015  10:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Stuff like this gives a bad name to the regular ancient coin collectors
I didn't even know such cases happened, actually.
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10/26/2015 10:34 am
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 Posted 10/26/2015  10:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add missroma to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unfortunately its happen very often.
Google Archaeological looting in Romania-Koson gold coin.
In 2011,a few coins were recuperated from a action house in Dublin.These Koson coins are on International watch.
All of them are stolen and illegal for sale!
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 Posted 10/26/2015  11:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bud250r to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe Interpol.
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Hi, I'll be the devil's advocate here to be fair. Does this mean that 100% of these coins are specifically from this UNESCO sight... that none of them were already or could be in the marketplace other than a recent heist? Essentially, saying these coins were unknown to the world until recently excavated and ONLY could be on the market via illegal means? That in the course of world history, none of these were traded elsewhere millenia ago via normal trade and are now coming up on the market through very legal means?
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 Posted 10/26/2015  11:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
On the right hand side of the ebay item listing page, about midway down, you will see two words --- "Report Item".

Clicking on "Report Item" will give you the opportunity to report your concerns to ebay. Whether they take action depends on what they find out during their "investigation". Due to privacy concerns they will not communicate with you the actions they may take against a Seller. If the item is removed from the listing, or the Seller becomes NARU'd, it will at least tell you they did something.

Good luck.
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Thank you Westernsky.I'll do that.
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Collect82.
Yes,indeed.Until the looters excavated these coins,there were no Koson on the market.Actually nobody knows about this coin,that ever existed.
Koson is the name of a Dacian king,he may be identical to the Cotison mentioned by Horace and Suetonius.
From 2000 till now there are tens of looting cases involved Gold Dacian Koson.
Interpol find a lot of them in action houses in USA,Irland,Italy...etc
Actually there is no legit Gold Koson on the market,as the land is Government's and as such all artifacts are displayed only in museums.Romanian Government or Museums NEVER sold historical artifacts.
Just looters sold Gold Koson Coin.
So,any Gold Koson Coin listed for sale is Illegally and Looted !
I hope you understand.
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 Posted 10/26/2015  12:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Collects82 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks so much!

It's like an Ancients version of the 1933 Double Eagle. 82 years later, and the gov't is still chasing foreign dignitaries and little old ladies!
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Contact information for the Romanian Embassy in italy

ADDRESS Via Nicolo Tartaglia 36 (Parioli)
00197 Roma (Rome)
Italy
PHONE LOCAL: (06) 808.4529
INTERNATIONAL: +39.06.808.4529
FAX LOCAL: (06) 808.4995
INTERNATIONAL: +39.06.808.4995
EMAIL amdiroma@roembit.org
WEB SITE http://roma.mae.ro/

Contact them, explain what is going on, and give them contact information for ebay. Romania is usually fairly proactive about archaeological site looting and ebay may be cooperative about helping if government pressure is brought to bear on them.
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 Posted 10/26/2015  1:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add allranger to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unless I am missing something it looks like there are at least a dozen of these on ebay...
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 Posted 10/26/2015  2:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add missroma to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
allranger,the looting at Sarmizegetusa is huge.Not only Koson coins but tens and tens of pounds of gold artifacts,very beautiful.Take a look at this article by National Geografic,its recent,march 2015.
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 Posted 10/26/2015  9:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add champco to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This litle coin site is getting soooo exciting!!
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 Posted 10/26/2015  9:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ploopy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Could it just be a stolen picture of one?
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 Posted 10/27/2015  06:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add missroma to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Update:
I went on ebay and report ALL the Koson Coin sellers.
Is clean now.
No gold Dacian Koson for sale,at least not on ebay.
Well...with one exception..a big Italian dealer.
The very one I first reported about.
Also he had the higher price,$2650.
What I did? I BIN.
Went back to cancel it,on the reason that it is a stolen item,but guess what?It said the item is already shipped,and show me even the tracking #.
But I do not paid for this transaction.
Now after I cooled down,I should not do this.
What do you think?Did he really shipped the coin without being paid?
In my opinion I dont't think so,he seems to be a big,fat fish on the black market.
His ebay user name is gcname,and his feedback is 96,9%.
We'll see.
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10/27/2015 06:47 am
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Some dealers HAVE sent out items without receiving payment first. It does.happen but who knows if it happened here or if hrs just trying to get an ethical buyer to hurry up and pay for it. Did ypu take conder advise about contacting the embassy? All your doing with ebay is taking the item down from sale not going after the guys. The embassy might get IP addresses from ebay and actually go find these guys and recover their heritage
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