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http://www.ebay.com/itm/1871-Seated...AOSwbdpWX~72This is my coin. Well the real one. I recently sold the coin to a local collector just 4 months ago. I first ASSUMED that the local buyer had just moved in quickly and was reselling it on ebay. That is his right. I sent him a text saying I saw the J-1146 on ebay and hope it does well and I might bid on it to get it back. Just joking around. He called me asking what I was talking about. This piece of garbage works fast. He had to of gotten the valid certification number from me. I sent pictures to people who were interested. He churned this fake slab with a valid certification # fast which means that he/she does this full time. It is not easy to make a fake coin in a fake PCGS slab. I have flagged it and contact ebay but time is running out. All I ask the community is to take a minute an flag this auction. ebay's system will delete the auction if enough people flag it. I would assume all his other coins are fake too. He is a new seller. I take this one personal. Do not let this scum walk away with a few thousand bucks with ease.
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Forgive me, but maybe it's my old age, or else your post is a bit confusing. Having a hard time figuring out what you are saying. You make some claims, and imo the slab and coin for sale look real as do most of the other coins the seller has for sale. There are people here willing to help if possible. Maybe you can explain a bit slower or better or maybe someone else can understand what you are saying. Frankly I'm a bit lost on this one. The best I can do is...you sold a coin, and then saw it for sale on ebay, so you texted the person you sold it too, and they didn't know what you were talking about. I'm lost after "This piece of garbage.." Was the coin you sold in a slab? Do you have a photo or record of your coin, how do you know it was your coin, why do you care if you already sold it and was happy with the sale, etc? Edited by edweather
12/07/2015 4:29 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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I think he means that the seller uses his slab number.
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I can try and obtain the picture. Yes this is my coin, slabbed. I posted it on Craigslist here in Indiana. (Do not crucify me. It was a shot in the dark and I actually meet a very nice buyer who was not a scam. I do not recommend Craigslist but it worked). I just posted what I had. Had a handful of people contact me. A few were interested. I sent a few pictures out. Meet a guy in Clarksville, IN (Near Louisville) and sold it. End of story. I am a big Pattern collector so I saw this auction and assumed the buyer just resold it. When I asked him he had no idea what I was saying. I am going back now trying to find out what is going on. I believe I only sent a handful of pictures. By the looks of my email 4 guys but might be more. I am not sure if this coin on ebay is a counterfeit where one guy hooked me to get a real certification # and then made his own counterfeit OR if this is a scammer who just straight up stole my pictures. It is hard to tell. It was months ago and I rarely sell any of my coins. This is all very new and has emerged over the last few hours. |
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OK, yeah, if what you say is true, and I'm assuming it is, seller stole the pic, and doesn't actually have the coin. It's funny, well not so funny, I was watching the 1823/2 Large Cent they're selling, and now I'll have to pass on it.
This is a tough one. Yes he is a new seller, but looks like he's actually sold coins and gotten good feedback. Also the photos for the coins for sale have a somewhat consistent look, like the seller actually took the pics. Sometimes these scammers will have all kinds of different coin photos with no consistency.
If you could show some sort of proof that the seller doesn't have the coin, that would be best. Maybe you're buyer could send you a pic of him holding the coin next to today's newspaper....or something.
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12/07/2015 4:52 pm
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Keep us updated and maybe you can post pictures that you sent out when you were selling your coin?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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i assume the guy you sold it to will check to make sure it wasn't stolen from his safe or safety deposit box or underneath his mattress.
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Forum Dad
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Yeah, seems simple enough, are the pictures the seller is using the pics you sent out?
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Pillar of the Community
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Does the original buyer still have the coin?
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Pillar of the Community
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I sent the seller a message and asked if he could post another photo or two from different angles.
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Pillar of the Community
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All I'm getting from this is that the person you sold it to responded with something like "I don't know what you're talking about". In the wacky craigslist world, I don't think we can draw any conclusions from that at all. Maybe he's just playing dumb and he doesn't want you to find out about him immediately reselling for profit, wants to score from you again sometime, etc. So, either the pictures on ebay are the exact same pictures you emailed him and seller doesn't actually have the coin, or it's a fake slab with a fake coin that seller whipped up off your pictures, right? You have the pictures you sent out, so we can try to prove the first case. The coin has some distinctive dings in the left field, so with your pictures we could prove the second case. What I find curious is that the vast majority of seller's items are in details slabs. If he's so good at this steal photos fake slabbing whip out counterfeits scam, why bother with details coins? It doesn't make sense to me. Frankly, my easiest conclusion is that he's reselling your coin, or resold it to this seller, and just doesn't want to admit it. Edited by kbbpll
12/07/2015 8:10 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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I would agree that it's either stolen pictures or the actual coin being sold legitimately. That would be by far hardest slab to counterfeit and it looks fine. If they aren't your pictures the most likely explanation is that it was resold
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There is a lot of scum on ebay, but sometimes just scummy enough to steal a picture... |
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Sorry for delay guys. I am working on this. ebay is actually been somewhat helpful. I mean it is hard for them. How do you verify that somebody stole your pictures? I have flagged it and had a few others flag it. Hopefully a few more flags get it down. I am trying to figure out if the guy I sold the coin too is not being honest with me. He gave off no red flags but I did not know him before this one transaction. I can't imagine why he would lie to me but I have to cover all my bases. |
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Pillar of the Community
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" If he's so good at this steal photos fake slabbing whip out counterfeits scam, why bother with details coins? It doesn't make sense to me"
If he put up all nice trophy coins people would notice it and figure it out a lot quicker perhaps? Having those details coins could be to drop people's guards because as you said most people will think "why would they bother with details coins too if they are scamming."
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Forum Dad
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Please answer the question. Are those pictures the exact pics you sent out?
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