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1825 Shilling With Raised Metal Between Letters

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 Posted 12/25/2016  3:44 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add OttawaVoyageur to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Would appreciate your opinion on this shilling:

Look right before and after the second ''G'' of GEORGIUS

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12/25/2016 3:48 pm
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 Posted 12/25/2016  9:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know this series st all, but I'm always concerned by partial letters on inscriptions. I'm thinking extra parts to letters is similarly bad news. Have you determined if it is actually silver?
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 Posted 12/26/2016  12:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OttawaVoyageur to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't own this coin so it is impossible for me to confirm if it is silver.

If legit, how can this happen? Doesn't look like a die crack to me (not continuous; globular protuberances).

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 Posted 12/26/2016  7:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PatAR to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not an expert in this series.

This appears to be an 1825 George IV shilling. It should contain 0.925 silver and weigh very close to 5.66g.

The drab color, extra material in the legend, and the fact that the center of the crown on the reverse has somehow worn before the face and mane of the lion all make me suspicious. Without the benefit of weight or other measurements I can proceed only on my knowledge and other available information.

Comparing to numerous online photographs from auctions in recent years, I found no examples with the extra material in the legend nor any hint of a die crack being commonplace in that location. Likewise, all of the examples I found exhibited well struck reverse with the center of crown relatively clear. This would seem to indicate that the weakness in the crown is not a common weak striking issue. And even circulated examples that were dirty had a color that I'm more accustomed to seeing from silver coins.

Of course, it is possible that one or many examples of 1825 George IV shillings might have the characteristics of the coin in question and simply were not among the photos I found. But as a non-expert in that series and given the preponderance of available evidence I would not buy this coin.

Hope this is helpful.
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