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 Posted 01/23/2017  11:50 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add twohawks to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
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Over the next 22 days I will be posting every E Clashed Morgan within the set, this is Day 1.
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 Posted 01/23/2017  3:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matttheriley to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
May I suggest you change the topic of the thread? You might gain more views and interest that way. Also, will these all be coins you own personally? That is a beautiful 1878!
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 Posted 01/23/2017  6:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Matt, Russ is the fremost authority of E clashed Morgan's and yes these are all his coins. This is going to be a good ride

Russ, one suggestion. Can you post a macro pic of the E on each along with the LFCP's. That would be great eye candy for those unfamiliar with each.
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 Posted 01/23/2017  7:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lembafc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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That would be great eye candy for those unfamiliar with each.


I am unfamiliar with know nothing about the E clash. Do tell please~
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 Posted 01/23/2017  10:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looking forward to sEEing all your E clashers Russ..
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OK 1st off an "E" clashed Morgan dollar is one that the working dies collided together when "No Planchet or coin blank was in the coin press. When the dies collided the image of the to dies impressed the relief into the other die. In this case the letters from LIBERTY's cap band transferred to the reverse die and appear under the tail feathers of the Eagle.

Each coin I will be putting in this thread will be an "E Clashed Variety"

With well over 3500 die pairing and repairing, only 13 die pairs are known to have clashed in this manner. When you compare, the number of N type clashes and ST type clashes that number well above 300 die pairings, the rarity really stands out.

This next coin needs no Sub Photo of the E Clash!

This is the 1891 VAM-1a1 LOOK UNDER THE TAILFEATHERS ON THE REVERSE OF THE COIN!





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 Posted 01/24/2017  12:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lembafc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Awesome explanation. That is the coolest thing I have ever seen!
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There's the big boy!

Kinda jumped the gun with the 1A1 but boy is that a sexy beast!
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I kind of figured it would make the explanation of the E clash more understandable. I will put in up the balance of the 91 V-1a group and then go back to the 1880 year. I think my V-1a4 looks better than this one. But that because of the refreshing of the die post clash makes the E jump off the coin more.
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Nice one Russ. Yeah that 1a1 E clash is so deep it's almost a trip hazard.
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 Posted 01/24/2017  1:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twohawks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Also, will these all be coins you own personally?


Mat, as its been said before all of the coins in this post are my coins. My set contains all 22 types with all of them being finest known! With 17 of the 22 being population 1 of 1 known. and 3 being 1 of 2 known.
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 Posted 01/24/2017  2:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scopru to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow...this will be an impressive thread.
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Awesome explanation. That is the coolest thing I have ever seen!


Ditto


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Mat, as its been said before all of the coins in this post are my coins. My set contains all 22 types with all of them being finest known! With 17 of the 22 being population 1 of 1 known. and 3 being 1 of 2 known.


Awesome! Please elaborate so a newbie such as myself can somewhat follow. Thanks
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Impressive thread ... your expertise is helping to educate all ... myself included

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 Posted 01/25/2017  12:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twohawks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Awesome! Please elaborate so a newbie such as myself can somewhat follow. Thanks


Coin Collecting 101:

1) Few mass produced coins are really rare!

2) Many mass produced coins in the highest grade are very scares or rare! "in general terms"

3) Rarity "doesn't mean that something is something is worth a million dollars"! It only means it's very un-common!

4) Value follows when something is rare or very scarce and has a following that supersedes the known population!

5) High value comes when the rarity is vary high and the known population is limited to less than the number of collectors seeking to add the coin into one set! It also comes when a coin has a vary limited number of a given coin in "Finest known"! In this set I am putting up all but a few can be found in lower grades without much problem! That's what makes the E Clash Set nice! It can be collected by most people, and it can be completed in modest grades with only 2 real stoppers. But the stoppers can be found in the wild still to this day!

That makes this type set fun, as many collectors enjoy the hunt!

As far as this set, many of the varieties are vary scarce in high grade. This is for a number of reasons, 1st is it contains 3 1886 O Morgan dollars this year and mint mark in a nice MS-61 without it being a Clashed E run about 1,500.00 each. The other reason falls into what die state a give coin is in. This set is of "Clashed Dies" by definition that means the dies have been smashed together, that makes finding really nice coins a bit more difficult.

On this set is a secondary mathematical equation to consider. Lets look at just one year like 1887 P Morgan dollars. The US Mint produced 20,290,000 1887 P Morgan dollars with about 40 die pairs and about 54 varieties in general. When you look at the 1887 P VAM-1b E Clashed Dollar there are "Less than 100 known" in all grade in every grading company ....out of 20 million coins produced "That's Rare" This variety only has "2" Mint State examples that exist. That makes Mint state examples extremely Rare!

6) As a collector becomes more competitive with their Coin sets. Registry sets come into play where given coins are given a point value, that is based on grade and rarity. A collector builds a set and adds the points up and competes for position! This part becomes very fun, and you find yourself swapping and trading coins with other collectors.
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