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When Does A New Century Begin For A Numismatist?

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How do your classify coins from 1900 and 2000 (or any other millennium year)?

Is the century indicated by the year number (1900 in the 20th century) or the
accepted designation of 2001 as the beginning of the 21st century?

Remember all the hoopla regarding which year began the new century
18 years ago? 2000 or 2001. Inquiring minds want to know!
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Hmmm good question. The 19th century would be the 1800s so my opinion is 1800-1899. Who knows with the whole "no year zero" argument.

(and 2001 would be the 21st century ;))
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Remember all the hoopla regarding which year began the new century 18 years ago? 2000 or 2001. Inquiring minds want to know!


There was even a Seinfeld episode about it; George booked a room for a big party he wanted to throw on the last day of the 20th century. The room got booked for Dec. 31, 2000.

That being said, I think this is one of those instances where "conventional wisdom" (1900-1999) trumps the technical definition 1901-2000).

The Wikipedia page on "Millennium" talks about the differing opinions. It's interesting if you have a few minutes. One quote I liked:

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Stephen Jay Gould argued that the choice is arbitrary, and since the question revolves around rules made by people, rather than a natural phenomenon that is subject to experimental measurement, the matter cannot be resolved
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I always wondered about the confusion that had to run amok when the calendars switched from 1 to 1.

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I collect by date, rather than by series, and I end one book at 1899 and begin my next book at 1900, as examples.
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In order to avoind confusion, I use terms such as "coins from the 1800s," and "coins form the 1900s."

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Going with what Earl said, I'd consider the 1900s the twentieth century, which means it ends at 1999 for me. 2000 would be the start of a new century.
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The standard catalog of world coins dates them the technical way 18th century 1701 - 1800, 19th century 1801 - 1900, 20th century 1901 - 2000, 21st century 2001 to date.
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Just get two of each from 1800, 1900 etc. so you can put one in each set.
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As a GB collector I've always thought it was a bit inconsiderate of Queen Victoria to die in 1901. For British coins I always think of the 20th century as starting with Edward VII!
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I think this is one of those instances where "conventional wisdom" (1900-1999) trumps the technical definition 1901-2000).


Well if you live in a society that uses the Gregorian Calendar, which governs everything down to the Nano-second or even smaller, if it didn't then Solstices, Equinoxes, and Leap Years would not work, then the centuries begin with year 1,101,201,...1901 2001. So, Pope Gregory didn't know a Nano-second from his backside, but it still works.

Thinking the century ends with 99 and starts with 00 is Conventional Ignorance.
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if it didn't then Solstices, Equinoxes, and Leap Years would not work


Solstices and Equinoxes "work" because of Leap Years.
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Well, the Dansco 7070 is traditionally called a 19th and 20th century US Type set and I support that.

My Dansco 7070 has a 2000-D Sacagawea dollar and a 2000-D South Carolina Statehood Quarter.

That should answer the question, at least as to my opinion.
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Well if you live in a society that uses the Gregorian Calendar, which governs everything down to the Nano-second or even smaller, if it didn't then Solstices, Equinoxes, and Leap Years would not work, then the centuries begin with year 1,101,201,...1901 2001. So, Pope Gregory didn't know a Nano-second from his backside, but it still works.
This is not really accurate. First, as mentioned, solstices and equinoxes work because of leap years. Second, the Gregorian calendar only sets rules for leap days, it is by no means accurate down to a nano-second (irregularities in the earth's rotation will see to that). We started using leap seconds long after Pope Gregory was dead and buried (they actually started in my lifetime).
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the way I look at is
1701 to 1799, then 1801 to 1899, then 1901 to 1999, 2001 to 2099.
So then if you just ignor a 1700, 1800, 1900, 2000 as no number date, you have no problems.
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But just carl, what do I do with my 1900, 2000 and eventually,
2100 year coins?

I think I will be going with the mathematical (?) method and put
1900 in the 20th century and 2000 in the 21st century. It just seems
to make more sense.
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