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1908 100 Koronas Hungarian Gold For Grading And Attribution

 
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 Posted 04/11/2017  4:19 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Imthealphaomega to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This is my grandmothers. I want to know if it's a restrike or a regular issue. From what I have read online these are very low mintage pieces like a few thousand. Any help? My grandmother is 80 and she got these from her parents so I am pretty sure it's a regular issue if so it's mintage is just over 4,000.





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04/11/2017 4:21 pm
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 Posted 04/14/2017  12:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Imthealphaomega to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can anyone chime in on this please?
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 Posted 04/14/2017  3:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joseph7420 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yesterday, I was researching what the differences are between the originals and restrikes of these coins. Although I have found places where other people asked that question, it seems no one really knows the answer. Only place I found that may help is an older CCF thread found here, where the member Msc says what their Austrian catalogue says about the restrikes: "Colour light red and not matt." Looking at other images of these coins, I cannot tell how true that is; it is probably something that can only be told whilst the coin is in hand.

As for the grade, I am seeing neither any wear nor many marks. But then again, at the angle these pictures are at, it is hard to tell the originality of the surfaces or if any marks are hiding. Assuming there are no hidden problems, I would think it is at least MS-65. Very nice!
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04/14/2017 3:16 pm
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 Posted 06/27/2020  2:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gabibacsi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see that the post is old but I would like to answer to it, because on more places here in the forum was asked, what is the difference between the original and the restrike.
1. From a photo it is nearly impossible to identify.
2. The restrike have often a proof appereance, because the restrike is made with the same die, but it is polished because in the meantime the die got rusted.
3. The restrike is concave, the deepest point is around the king. The original fields are completely flat.
4. Taking into hands, they are different. The restrike is poor in details.
5. The star on the left from the coat of arms is the poorest in detail at the restrike.
6. In UNC grade they have a different colour.
7. And the last the restrike fields have hundreds of small "waves".
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06/27/2020 3:06 pm
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 Posted 06/27/2020  2:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gabibacsi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
im sure the coin on the photo is 100% restrike from the 60's.
Made by a hungarian government owned company named "ARTEX".
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 Posted 06/30/2020  12:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Grade would be AU details, polished.
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 Posted 07/07/2020  01:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arianzo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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From a photo it is nearly impossible to identify.


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im sure the coin on the photo is 100% restrike from the 60's.


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 Posted 07/07/2020  02:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gabibacsi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
arianzo!

"From a photo it is NEARLY impossible to identify."

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 Posted 07/07/2020  03:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gabibacsi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We rarely see such a GOOD PHOTO. We have small waves to the left of "KIR", we have a redgold chain in a similar color to the coin, the original would be pale yellow, we have a big shadow to the right of the coat of arms, because this is the lowest point on the restrikes.
ARTEX was created by the leaders of the communist state to sell gold outside the Iron Curtain and therefore receive a Mark and Dollars. Most of the restrike are either pendant or in a bag. Most of the originals are in Eastern, Central and Western Europe, for collectors. The American grandmother story is typical.
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07/07/2020 03:58 am
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