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 Posted 06/12/2018  7:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Phil310 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's a real nice double cud! Thanks for adding that one.
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 Posted 06/12/2018  7:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Phil310 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is an 1859 cent that I think should qualify as a retained cud. Here is a photo of part of the reverse from leaves 13-16. It is a late state Haxby PC59-77a1.

There is a lot of lateral displacement at the leaf 16 side of the retained cud.


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 Posted 06/13/2018  08:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hounddog Bill to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Phil310, Nice coin but in this state would this not be referred to as a retained broken die?
I was under the impression if a die with a retained break was to continue in use it would or could become displaced and then create a cud.
I’m certainly not challenging your judgement on this as I know very little on the subject I only ask to get a clearer understanding of this for myself.

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 Posted 06/13/2018  09:46 am  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
with Hounddog here... retained broken die is what I would call that one.
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 Posted 06/13/2018  10:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Phil310 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the clarification of terms on this one Houndog and SPP. I'm still trying to figure out the correct way to describe these.

I was basing my call on the definition on the "cuds on coins" website of a "retained cud" as a coin with a die crack from rim to rim with vertical or lateral displacement. But "retained broken die" sounds a lot more accurate.

Thanks!

Would this one I posted earlier in this thread also be considered a retained broken die? I would assume so as long as there is still some coin design to show the broken part is retained.

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06/13/2018 11:04 am
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