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1884-O Morgan Dollar For Grading New Photos

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This 1884-O Morgan dollar has some interesting die clash, but I haven't nailed down the VAM yet. Sorry if the photos are a bit off, I took these using my proof-coin setup and these are not proof coins!

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IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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I get the impression the photos don't do this coin justice. This is possibly gem, MS65. Unless the area around the ear is wear and not a reflection, then it would be AU58.

The mint mark is not clear enough to show a re-punched VAM 6.
There may be doubling on the date, but photo is not clear enough.
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My eyeball grade is 64, light rub in the left obverse field and a bit of frost break on the cheek, I will do better pictures tomorrow :)
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I'm going to say ms63 maybe 64 in hand, the marks come through as dark, more distracting maybe because the light in photos? Nice coin thanks for sharing
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Nice one, MS-65
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With that chatter in left obverse field and on cheek, I'm at 63 with an outside shot at 64.
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New photos. This took a long time to actually accomplish.

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Oh, in case anyone's curious, here's the stand/background/etc I finally was able to rig up.

I also switched from 35mm with a shorter distance from the coin, to 55mm and a longer distance.



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IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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MS-63.
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Thanks for the new photos. I didn't see evidence of a re-punched mint mark.
( VAM 6). But there does appear to be a slight doubling on the one and eights on the date, (doubled 18).
As well as pitted die marks on the eights which was typical in this run. Congrats, it's real!
Though I'm changing my grade to MS62 , maybe 63 . .

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I will put this one under the scope later to nail the VAM
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Different lighting attempt with bigger photos

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Blistering luster with a weak New O strike. 63 easily, shot at 64.
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VAM-14 O/O Far Date with doubled feathers 3-7, as best I can tell under my scope. The heavy arced rightward-curving line is present inside the MM.
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