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1857 large cent, large date is it real?  
 

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 Posted 08/10/2017  5:28 pm Show Profile   Check Onedollarbillnut's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add Onedollarbillnut to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I bought this today, now I'm having my doubts



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 Posted 08/10/2017  5:31 pm  Show Profile   Check paralyse's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
100% bogus. The date is wrong, legends wrong, etc.

This is my authentic 1857 Large Date by way of comparison (ex: McCawley/Grellman)



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 Posted 08/10/2017  5:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Beefer518 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
as well (actually, there is no doubt it is not a genuine coin).

The rim is so far off, it isn't even funny. Almost looks like it's a "Tribute" coin.

I sure hope you can return that puppy.
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 Posted 08/10/2017  5:52 pm  Show Profile   Check Onedollarbillnut's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Onedollarbillnut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a local dealer so I should be able to
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 Posted 08/10/2017  6:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Counterfiet.
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 Posted 08/10/2017  10:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joseph7420 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It definitely looks like a counterfeit.
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 Posted 08/10/2017  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Check TypeCoin971793's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add TypeCoin971793 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Having a head style that was discontinued in 1843 on an 1857 coin s hould immediately raise red flags.
Life is like a box of chocolates. A cheap, thoughtless, perfunctory gift that nobody ever asks for. Unreturnable because all you get back is another box of chocolates. So you're stuck with this undefinable whipped mint crap that you mindlessly wolf down when there's nothing else left to eat. Sure, once in a while there's a peanut butter cup or an English toffee. But they're gone too fast and the taste is... fleeting. So, you end up with nothing but broken bits filled with hardened jelly and teeth-shattering nuts. And if you're desperate enough to eat those, all you got left is an empty box filled with useless brown paper wrappers.
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 Posted 08/10/2017  10:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mark1959 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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It's a local dealer so I should be able to


Darn, stay away from that "Local Dealer"
My biggest fear is that when I die my wife will sell all my coins for what I told her I paid for them.

Working on Whitman Large Cent date set album 1793-1857 (57 holes filled of 64 total) now come the "toughies" - yikes!
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 Posted 08/10/2017  11:06 pm  Show Profile   Check coin197's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add coin197 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


Pretty bad fake.
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 Posted 08/11/2017  01:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Beefer518 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow. Looking at this again, I think the only things that are correct on the OP's coin are the empty fields, and the number of stars. Everything else, and I do mean everything, is wrong; small letters, date numbers, dentils, rim, wreath, just everything.

How much was the dealer asking for this replica token?
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 Posted 08/11/2017  09:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A dealer who sells this, or attempts to, is either completely unfamiliar with large cents or is trying to pass off their mistake to someone else.
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 Posted 08/11/2017  10:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That dealer is dumb like fox.
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 Posted 08/11/2017  1:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First thing I saw while it was loading was the denticals were wrong, next thing was "A petite head 1857?" (Petite Head was used 1839 to 1843.) After that I didn't need to look for any other flaws (but there are more)
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 Posted 08/11/2017  1:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, I would get my money back and let the dealer know I would not be back. Like the others mentioned, either he has no idea what he is doing or is shady.
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 Posted 08/11/2017  4:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Darn, stay away from that "Local Dealer"


I disagree ... An astute buyer can often acquire bargains from sellers who can't distinguish counterfeits from genuine coins. Sellers or "dealers" like this tend to care more about moving product than getting educated. Over the years, I've purchased many a cool coin/token variety from a seller who didn't care to consult a book, join a club or even ask an online forum; thereby, doing some homework.
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