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 Posted 09/24/2017  7:49 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add NJ Bob to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I'm 35 rolls into my 11th box and now I've found a '61 proof. Wow, I really like this box!







(I can't understand why the images are rotated when I post them. They're fine when I have them on my desktop. Anyway, I hope you can forgive me.)
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 Posted 09/24/2017  8:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add WheatBackPenny to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice! It is always surprising to see an old proof pop out of a roll. Make sure to share the box's results!
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 Posted 09/24/2017  8:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mark1959 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't kill the messenger, BUT I think that is just an extremely nice business strike 1963. but I want to see what others say. The pictures might not be doing the coin justice.
You should always collect within your income, even if you have to borrow to do so.

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09/24/2017 8:37 pm
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 Posted 09/24/2017  8:34 pm  Show Profile   Check Crazyb0's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not a PROOF strike, just nice for the year AU56


Here's a nasty 60's proof:


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09/24/2017 8:44 pm
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 Posted 09/24/2017  8:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NJ Bob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I disagree, this is an impaired proof.

No way a BS has fields like this.
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 Posted 09/24/2017  8:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NJ Bob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The photo may be off but coin in hand the rims are spot on.
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 Posted 09/24/2017  8:49 pm  Show Profile   Check Crazyb0's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are MANY early '60's that have clear fields, was a process of planchet making then, major diff's are POLISHED planchets and CRISP details. Your coin has very "standard" details (letters etc). I can pull out my 1961D that looks better than yours, thinks that's a proof? Found it CRH a year ago. I have foiund "impared" proofs, they ALL had evenly spaced. wire rims. The real key is, is the rim equal thickness 360 degrees around, if not, no got. that simple.
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09/24/2017 8:52 pm
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 Posted 09/24/2017  9:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NJ Bob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This coin has mirror fields, not clear fields. My photo is far from perfect, but in hand the coin is clearly a proof.
In fact, I'd be glad to mail you the coin so you can see for yourself (so long as you agree to mail it back.). Message me your address and it'll go out tomorrow.

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 Posted 09/24/2017  9:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice find. I'm delighted anytime I find a Jefferson without some sort of scar on his face. You got a nice one.

As for the rims....none of the photos show coins with consistently even rims. I think it's all about the camera -- not the photographer, the camera. On Crazyb0's proof photo, there appears to be a visible difference between 2 o'clock and 7 o'clock.
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 Posted 09/24/2017  10:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mark1959 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Side lighting sometimes distorts the coin being photographed but taking a picture with overhead lighting is difficult.
When someone posts a picture that is all we have to judge the coin from - we don't have the benefit of having it in hand.
That's why one should always preview the pictures they are about to post and if they aren't what you want to show then try taking different ones.
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 Posted 09/24/2017  10:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NJ Bob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am willing to admit I might be wrong but I'll eat may hat if this isn't a proof.

I will gladly send it to someone else to verify. I;m always ready to learn something new.

Any takers?
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 Posted 09/24/2017  10:26 pm  Show Profile   Check Crazyb0's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply




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 Posted 09/25/2017  02:46 am  Show Profile   Check spruett001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spruett001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Labeling the comparisons you made would help, Crazyb0, primarily because the positions are switched.

@NJ Bob

You can send it to me if you wish (just PM me). I have many nickel proofs and Uncirculated business strikes to compare it to. I personally think that it is a proof.


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The real key is, is the rim equal thickness 360 degrees around, if not, no got. that simple.


No. The real key is what kind of steps it has. They look pretty nice in the pic. If it may be Business Strike FS, it's way, way more valuable than the proof.

Give it a little time here, though.
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09/25/2017 03:07 am
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 Posted 09/25/2017  06:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NJ Bob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I always judged a proof by a combination of the quality and definition of the strike and fields. This coin passes my test.

I've never seen a FS like this but there's always a first time, so Spruett, PM sent.
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 Posted 09/25/2017  06:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NJ Bob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Besides, how on earth would a BS stay this pristine over 55 years in circulation?
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 Posted 09/25/2017  06:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NJ Bob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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That's why one should always preview the pictures they are about to post and if they aren't what you want to show then try taking different ones.


The photos I posted were the best I was going to do with my phone and my failing eyesight. The point was to simply show you the coin, not to argue about the width of the rims.

But I appreciate your response and I generally don't disagree with you about making sure photos tell the story you intend them to.
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