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Nice find. I'm delighted anytime I find a Jefferson without some sort of scar on his face. You got a nice one. As for the rims....none of the photos show coins with consistently even rims. I think it's all about the camera -- not the photographer, the camera.  On Crazyb0's proof photo, there appears to be a visible difference between 2 o'clock and 7 o'clock.
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Side lighting sometimes distorts the coin being photographed but taking a picture with overhead lighting is difficult. When someone posts a picture that is all we have to judge the coin from - we don't have the benefit of having it in hand. That's why one should always preview the pictures they are about to post and if they aren't what you want to show then try taking different ones.
Edited by Mark1959 09/24/2017 10:05 pm
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I am willing to admit I might be wrong but I'll eat may hat if this isn't a proof.
I will gladly send it to someone else to verify. I;m always ready to learn something new.
Any takers?
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Labeling the comparisons you made would help, Crazyb0, primarily because the positions are switched. @NJ Bob You can send it to me if you wish (just PM me). I have many nickel proofs and Uncirculated business strikes to compare it to. I personally think that it is a proof. Quote: The real key is, is the rim equal thickness 360 degrees around, if not, no got. that simple. No. The real key is what kind of steps it has. They look pretty nice in the pic. If it may be Business Strike FS, it's way, way more valuable than the proof. Give it a little time here, though. 
In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020 In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020 In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
Edited by spru 09/25/2017 03:07 am
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I always judged a proof by a combination of the quality and definition of the strike and fields. This coin passes my test.
I've never seen a FS like this but there's always a first time, so Spruett, PM sent.
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Besides, how on earth would a BS stay this pristine over 55 years in circulation?
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Quote: That's why one should always preview the pictures they are about to post and if they aren't what you want to show then try taking different ones. The photos I posted were the best I was going to do with my phone and my failing eyesight. The point was to simply show you the coin, not to argue about the width of the rims. But I appreciate your response and I generally don't disagree with you about making sure photos tell the story you intend them to.
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I just checked my email and found that crazy responded, so I'll send it off to him today.
BTW, the steps are sharp.
Edited by NJ Bob 09/25/2017 06:28 am
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Considering the photos, I think it could be a proof. It might help to take another photo at the opposite angle to highlight the part of the rim that looks irregular in this shot. It might show it more squared. Regardless, it is a darn nice find and worthy of celebration. 
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Man, if that is NOT a proof, it is worth a good bit of money. If it was mine, I would be hoping for business strike...
Edit: Best I can tell, PCGS price guide for 1961 FS in MS-63 is in the $700 range!
"Nummi rari mira sunt, si sumptus ferre potes." - Christophorus filius Scotiae
Edited by Bump111 09/25/2017 12:08 pm
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That is one way to look at it, Bump! 
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Bump, I hope you're right, but there's no way it isn't a proof. I'll tell you, you guys are tough crowd. I'm going to have to up my game and get a decent copy stand so I can take photos that meet your very exacting standards! And figure out how to make sure the photos are posted right side up...  Crazy, the coin goes out to you in the morning. In the same box a found a proof-like 1963D. Great fields, almost mirror like, but the strike isn't that strong, and the D... Even I can tell it isn't a proof. Anyway, I'm having a blast with this box and with all the controversy it's stirred up. 
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The more I looked at it in closeup, previously posted the more it was a head scratch..have a note in to Coop about the massive amount of rim finning, tha'ts what I don't get, not normally seen on proofs. But fields and elements are pointing to Proof. I'll try my scope for better pix, see what pops out.  If you want steps, check out Nicrobs! http://goccf.com/t/297224#2533634
Edited by Crazyb0 09/25/2017 6:58 pm
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Quote: I'm going to have to up my game and get a decent copy stand so I can take photos that meet your very exacting standards! And figure out how to make sure the photos are posted right side up... Photos do not have to be perfect, just adequate. 
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