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In celebration of enjoying so much fun and hitting 10K, I'm giving away some cool free stuff in a simple contest.


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6 Prizes = #1 EF Ancient Diocletian Antonnianvs with all of the plating INTACT, #2 EF 1898 Morgan silver dollar, #3 Bag of Tokens with hidden US Silver, #4 Bag of US coins with hidden Silver, #5 Bag of World Coins, many 60-100 years old, plus hidden US silver, #6 1986 Commemorative Half Dollar in original box plus a little US Silver.

Rules = You must have 50 posts or I can't exchange email or gain your shipping address. Only one entry per person. NO OTHER RULES, other than those we already observe for forum happiness.

How to WIN = Write an article about coins, tokens, or currency. A few of the myriad possible ideas might be - your favorite series, your most prized collectible, where you have your best luck finding what you search for, how you work your want list, tips for using ebay, Heritage, Great Collections, Stacks - or any other auction house. How you display your collection, the toughest part of becoming a knowledgeable collector, the strangest things you collect, what you hope to accomplish and on and on and on.

Guides = I like happy stuff and even humor. I don't like grumpy stuff or anything that belittles anyone. Real words with things like punctuation and correct spelling does count.

Who Wins? = Really simple. Based on what you write I'll be awarding the first through the sixth place winners. Each winner can pick anything that hasn't yet been chosen. As an example, The #1 best article gets to pick any of the six prizes. The #2 best article gets to choose from the remaining five prizes, and so on.

Finally = anyone can voice a positive enjoyment for any article written. It may actually help me decide the best of the best. The contest is over in exactly one week from this initial posting.

And Really Finally = to add a bit of fun I've only shown one photo in the first photo of the bag of tokens. I haven't shown you more because that bag MAY or MAY NOT have something to "gamble" on.

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Interesting contest...time to knock off the mental "dust bunnies".

Is there a character limit in a post? I kinda get "wordy" at times.
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Thanks for the contest! I may not have time, but if I remember I may try to come up with something!
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No limit on the post, although pictures help cut down on verbiage. A really funny one liner might win, or a 5 page on how to do a type set.
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I dabble a little in varieties, here is a little ditty;

Cherry-Picking Coin Varieties

"Why settle for ordinary, when you can have extraordinary". I have used this phrase in my ebay listings on numerous occasions to bring to light the differences that coinage may possess. Coin "varieties" are defined by NGC as "coins that differ from their basic design type in some distinctive way and are thus differentiated by collectors".

With just about every series of coinage, there are varieties to be found by "cherry-picking". Most collectors that have been in a coin shop, may have recognized a dealers "junk (bargain) bin", which is fertile ground for finding varieties! Cherry-picking is looking a little deeper at the details of a coin and finding something "different". It could be an over-punched letter or numeral, over mintmarks, die clashes, cracks extra fingers, feathers, eyes, nostrils, die gouges, chips or any detail that exists on the obverse or reverse of a coin which is different than the original design.

Some varieties are not only well-known within the numismatic community but by the general public as well. The famous 1955 Doubled Die Lincoln Cent which is obviously "different" from ordinary cents of the design. Jamie Hernandez (Oct 2009) from PCGS stated that ".a pack of cigarettes would cost 23 cents each but the vending machines would only take a quarter and no other change. Therefore, the cigarette companies would need to place Two Cents inside each pack of cigarettes to be given back as change. Anyone who inserted a quarter in the vending machine would then receive a pack of cigarettes with two Lincoln cents inside a cellophane packaging. This cellophane packaging was then wrapped around the cigarette packs with the two Lincoln cents inside it, and this is where many of the 1955 Doubled Dies surfaced."

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https://www.PCGS.com/cert/24015196


One of my recent cherry-picks was this 1887-S 10C F-119 MPD.

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What helped me to find this variety is knowing "where to look".

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Do you see the "flag" of the "1" of the date within the vertical lines of the shield under the "R" of LIBERTY? This is known as a "Misplaced Digit". There are some variety reference sites for some of the more popular type denominations, and there are numerous books as well.

Another location to pay attention to is the "denticles" of the coin, primarily the obverse. Here is another variety that I "picked"; 1908 Indian Head cent MPD FS-301 S-4;

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Do you see the top loop of a "8" within the denticles under the "8" in the date?

"Back in the day" the die setters used to punch certain details, the stars and date digits, in the die by hand, and perhaps it was early on a Monday morning or late on a Friday night and the setter got a little carried away (carless) and punched a character where it did not belong which resulted in an opportunity for a variety collector to discover. The coin dies of today, the details are all set into the single hub, so the likelihood of such "mistakes" don't happen...there are always exceptions. PCGS's Jaime Hernandez states "The 1995 Doubled Die is the last of its kind. Late in the 1990's the Philadelphia and Denver Mint began using a single hub technique. The single hub technique would only strike all dies once, therefore, eliminating the possibility of striking major doubled die coins."

A modern Doubled Die Obverse 1995 Lincoln Cent;

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(image by robec)

Here are the "Pick Up Points" to look for;

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http://www.PCGScoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/3125

A popular series are the Morgan and Peace dollar VAM varieties. VAM is an acronym for "Van Allen & Mallis" who ignited the search for variety attribution with their book (this book is huge) "The Comprehensive Catalog and Encyclopedia of Morgan & Peace dollars by Leroy C. Van Allen and A. George Mallis. Affectionately known as "the big VAM book" by collectors, this is currently in its fourth edition. First published in 1971, it was updated and reprinted in 1998. It contains a detailed listing of all known (at the time) die varieties listed date-by-date and is loaded with pictures. At more than 500 pages, it contains a wealth of mainstream information dealing with the history of Morgan dollars, grading, Counterfeit Detection, photography instruction and more. Leroy Van Allen has also put out supplements and detailed attribution guides since this work was published." http://www.vamworld.com/VAM+Books. Interestingly, every Morgan or Peace dollar should be able to be identified by a VAM number.eventually.

I cherry-picked this 1921-D Morgan VAM 3A Wing Dot a few years ago;

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Here is one of the Pick-Up Points;

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Of course the "name sake" is the "dot" under the viewers left wing, but the die cracks at the wing tip are more prominent.


There are new varieties found practically on a daily basis, mostly "minor" varieties in which a die-hard collector may pay extra for. A recent, March 2015, dramatic variety discovery was the 1919 Mercury dime Doubled Die Obverse. Ron Guth of PCGS stated in CoinFacts "This significant Doubled Die Obverse was first reported in the March 17, 2015 issue of Numismatic News Express. It was discovered by Scott Kerr and publicized by Jeffrey Sam. The doubling is most evident on the Motto "IN GOD WE TRUST" but can also be seen on the L and the I of "LIBERTY". As of October 2017, the finest example certified by PCGS was an XF45, a coin which was reportedly sold to John Potts for $10,000 by Eagle Eye Rare Coins."

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...and of course the Pick-Up Point;

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http://www.PCGScoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/545047/

Is every variety worth $10,000? No, but you never know what you may find unless you are not looking for it. Arnold Schwarzenegger stated at his commencement speech at the University of Southern California in 2009 "You can't climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets."...but you never know what you may find in your pocket change.
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Mox, I can't post mine on the forum at this time. It seems like I have been blocked from making comments about our endearing young numismatically deficient "Garage Coin Mechanic" we must no longer mention. I will gladly send it to you tho...


PS: even been updated with more!
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Can I post an article that I wrote in the summertime?
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I started collecting about 6 months ago, with no idea what I was getting into but I couldn't stop reading and researching all sorts of coins and paper money. Everyone I have spoken to about this hobby suggested that I pick a niche and focus on it. HUH! how is this possible with so many beautiful coins and notes around. Although I have reduced my search size, I still find myself researching some worldly coins when I see them for sale. Example: I saw some Italian 50 Lira for sale from 1930's and I found it interesting because of the history and the fact Italy had allied forces notes circulating at this time period during WW1 as well as civilian notes. Another obstacle or internal battle I am having is the cost of the hobby, either I have expensive taste, but everything I enjoy costs a small fortune. Everything I send a e-transfer for payment to a auction house, all I see is my kids walking around with no diapers in my mind.
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I had started out only collecting some Royal Canadian Mint series cons like the $200 for $200 series and Canadian Gold coins (known as the hoard) from 1912 to 1914, they come in $5 and $10 dollar nominations. I have found these to be very hard to purchase as there prices seem to be on the rise. The story behind these coins was that the Canadian government locked away these coins once WW1 broke out and forgot about them for 75 years. They then hand selected about 30k of these coins for resale and melted the rest.

I have currently added Canadian and US bank notes from pre 1930's and also bank notes with solid and low (under 1000) serial numbers. Also started collecting gold coins. My most resent purchase, being a 1927 2.5 dollar gold coin Indian head. I love the odd values.

I would love to go around to garage sales, estate sales but having young kids ages 2 and 4 and they kind off take up my free time, which is basically week-ends. So I currently search the web daily for items that interest me, but I am finding it hard to find deals this way, seems like you got to pay listed prices on these online actions.

I hope when the boys get older they won't mind waking up at 4am to be the first at these flea markets and garage sales. Fingers crossed.

Thanks for the contest and I hope you enjoyed the article, kind of helped me swell sorting out my thoughts on where I want my collection to go next.



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First, Oih82-- you've helped me tremendously with your article, in two respects - first because ill always remember your slathered wolf as the variety guy. Second because I learned a great deal myself. Knowing one another through this contact is fun and I thank you.

Crazyb0 I cannot believe you did that. The frog got whipped last time. Truth be told I darn near named the unnamable myself today. Ask the mods if it's okay for you to PM me to put your article up. I'm sure it would be a great piece we would all enjoy.

Coinlover - as long as it hasn't been published anywhere it's fine if you wrote it a few months ago. I just want to insure no problems with copyright. I edit a couple mags and it always boils my bubble if authors are used without permission.
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This contest seems a bit up my alley if only I can remember how to write.
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I'm in, here's my entry
Finally done after a whole day of thinking

Disclaimer: This article contains the writer's (Guybrush) subjective opinion which may or may not offend someone about something. The writer apologizes in advance, in case that someone feels offended as it is NOT the writer's intention at all.




"Young People Vs. Old Coins"


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Just like everyone, sometimes I want to talk about my hobby to my friends. But when I tell them that I collect antique coins, I only got funny responses like "You do? What for?" or "Why did you spend so much money on this thingy?!". As everyone here does know, there aren't many young numismatists. This got me thinking: Why? Why are not they interested in it? Unlike other articles, this one offers a unique perspective: "A young numismatist trying to answer why there aren't many young numismatists".

Now, we are going to stray a bit from the field of numismatics and discuss more about young people and daily life. Embrace yourself.

From my experience, there are 2 reasons why most young people are disinterested in numismatics:
They prefer more popular ways to satisfy their ego
They prefer utility over novelty

Let's start with the first one. Young people really crave to satisfy their ego. Usually, they do that by doing their hobby. They rather spend a lot of money for, say, sport motorcycle, expensive shoes, or the newest gadgets rather than for a coin. Why? Because those items are considered to be the "normal" ones, so it's easier to show them off to others. By doing so, they satisfy their ego. The more "normal" or widely accepted their hobby is, the more it will satisfy their ego since more people would also appreciate it.

High school students, for example, will get quite popular if they go to school riding a nice motorcycle, wearing expensive shoes, or using cutting edge gadgets. I still remember Yahya, a student who had the best bike in school; and Enggar, my classmate who bought an iPhone6 just after it was officially released (I even remember my classmates fighting to get their turns trying that phone). In this aspect, coin collecting won't get any young folk anywhere. Talking to friends of my age (15-18) about collecting coins only got me known as a weirdo .

Apart from the financial aspect and showing off, there are many more things that satisfy young people's ego rather than coin collecting.

Playing online games? Of course, being the top-ranked player above tens or even hundreds of thousands others sure feels great!

Getting a million subscribers? Who doesn't want that, your videos being watched by millions, and even knowing that your next move is being awaited by millions?

Joining the school's sports team? With such popularity, school life is a piece of cake! Girlfriend? No problemo. A day off? Just say it's a practice for the next competition and the teachers will take care of the rest. Easy.

Being active in messenger apps? Well, with that many contacts in your phone messenger, seems like there's always something fun to talk about, 24/7.

Surely there are so many other ways how young people satisfy their ego (including some other ones I don't understand). But for most young people, coin collecting isn't suitable for that purpose. This also relates to the second idea: utility over novelty.

Let's compare watches as timekeeper and as works of art (or novelties), with coins as currency and as collectables, respectively.

There are expensive mechanical watches, with precious metals, plus ingenious, intricate design and mechanisms. On the other hand, there are cheaper quartz or electronic watches, which are simple and does its job much, much better (accurate) than the mechanical ones.

There are expensive collectable coins, whose value would be ruined if they really circulate. On the other hand, there are cheaper base metal coins that are more practical for daily usage, and are more durable.

Many people wear watches, but most of them only care about timekeeping, instead of the art and mechanisms, etc. So it is only a small fraction of them who do care about the artistic value of expensive watches.

Almost everyone use coins on a daily basis, but most of them only care about the monetary value, not the collectability or the grades, etc. So it is only a small fraction of them who do care about their collectability.

But there are also mechanical watches on the lower end, why are they not that popular? While they may be affordable, not everyone may enjoy the maintenance (winding the watch, regularly sending them for cleaning, etc.), nor the fragility that they have. So the more practical watches, which are very accurate but require pretty much zero maintenance, become more prevalent.

Coin collecting is not always expensive, why is it not that popular? While there are cheaper collectible coins, not everyone may enjoy the hassle of numismatics (learning about the coins, grading, sorting, putting them into 2x2's, etc), nor the risk of damage which will reduce the value. At the end, almost everyone only cares about the monetary function of coins.

So, not everyone is interested in coin collecting. But what does this have to do with the younger age group? Older people, who have experienced a rather conventional and manual way of life, may find the fun of coin collecting worth the effort. Younger people, on the other hand, are used to more modern and instant way of life, where almost everything is digital and instant - even if they come across coin collecting somehow, it is very likely that they consider coin collecting just as an unnecessary hassle.

To put everything short: Young people are addicted to please their ego. For most of them, this can be easily and successfully achieved by doing something considered "normal" or widely accepted. Since they usually only consider the utility over the collectability of coins, they usually don't consider coin collecting as their hobby.

I hope everyone enjoyed reading this - the first ever numismatic article that I wrote, Guybrush.



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I'm by no means as articulate as the previous posters but the one category suggestion of "My most prized collectible" got me thinking.
Bear with me as I preamble to that collectible.
My father had come to Canada at 17 years of age,in 1929, with his brother on the Cunard Line's HMS Acadia.Only 17 and in a new country,he worked farms,did deliveries on his bicycle for a meat market.At some point,his father,mother,two more brothers,a half brother and half sister emigrated to Canada to be with the boys.
Dad met his love and married her and soon headed off to war.Thankfully he came back safely to his bride.
He landed a job as the counter and parts man in my mother's step-father's Chevrolet and Oldsmobile dealership.The downside was that the dealership was seventeen miles from their wee walk-up apartment. His bicycle was his transportation to and from.Eventually I came along.I was a baby boomer,a post war child born in Canada in 1948.
Now my Grandfather had a custom of giving a silver dollar to every newborn grandchild.(Anybody see where this is headed?) Born in 1948,I was given a 1948 Canadian Silver Dollar fresh from the bank.Contest---Win-Morgan-$---Ancient---Bag-Of-Tokens---Bag-Of-World---US-Commem
I'm sure at some point that I actually had that coin in my hands.Sadly I don't know what ever happened to that coin.I'm sure that it was put to good use to benefit our family.Little did they know the premium that coin would bring in later years.
I tend to believe that the shiny silver dollar and Dad's salvaged European war time coins,that I looked through regularly in my preteen years,got me started in coin collecting.
I've never been a big dollar coin collector.I did buy mint sets for a few years.I'm retired now and limit myself to the best that I can find in circulation. I've been lucky to have friends and family that have traveled to foreign lands and returned with gifts of coins. Also members here have gifted US cents in their give aways and contests. These are especially appreciated since my circulating US cents are no longer seen in Canada. The odd ten cent,nickle and quarter still show up from time to time.







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We only have four entries so far so at this point everyone who has submitted is a winner. I'm surprised that my prizes haven't garnered more submissions.

Hopefully we get at least two more and then everyone wins a prize choice.
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Hopefully we get at least two more and then everyone wins a prize choice.


@moxking, I'm working on one right now that will end up being it's own separate thread, but I'll post the link here once I have uploaded it.
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I am sure by the end of the time window you gave there will be far more submissions.

I like what I have read so far from each person. The Linus cartoon aboveh captures a comment I hear quite often from my family!
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"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
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