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1999-P Lincoln Grease Filled?

 
 
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 Posted 12/06/2017  6:03 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Perfect Error to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Is there something different about the plating with the angled grooves on both the obverse and reverse?

Why wasn't the bust covered with grease?

Any thoughts? Thanks.






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 Posted 12/06/2017  6:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chase007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I had read this in Coin World, excellent description:


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Die fill (“grease”) accumulates and gets compacted within a die recess to form a cast. The hardened cast is eventually dislodged and ends up lying above or below a planchet. The dropped filling is struck into the planchet and then falls out, leaving behind an incuse impression. The impression will be normally oriented unless the dropped element flips over or winds up between the planchet and the opposite die.

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 Posted 12/06/2017  6:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Perfect Error to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That explains it and thanks Chase007 for the excellent response
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 Posted 12/06/2017  6:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Perfect error. Your coin does show on obverse more of an over polishing issue than a grease filled struck thru. VLDS, Die deterioration causes metal of the die to move outwards, it begins to push the metal forming the "extra ring" seen so often at this die state. On you coin, excessive polishing to remove the "indented ring" (reversed image) on the die has gone down so far as to remove the depth of the outer devices, the last 1, LI of LIBERTY and even the deep polishing lines as seen in the field between IGWT. Those lines are brush lines. Now the reverse loss of detail is grease fill.
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 Posted 12/06/2017  6:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Perfect Error to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Crazyb0 for the outstanding response and truly amazing terminology from you guys. Very much appreciated!
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 Posted 12/06/2017  7:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinMasters to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Why wasn't the bust covered with grease?

The description Chase posted tells how "Dropped Letters" occur. I see none on your coin. I do see where it was struck through grease though, in particular at the date and Liberty, possibly some at the coat and neck also. The bust wasn't covered in grease because there just wasn't enough to go around. lol



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Is there something different about the plating with the angled grooves on both the obverse and reverse?
Some of them probably are polishing lines, but the bulk of them travel in the same direction on both sides of the coin (when the coin is not flipped) and are thought to be roller lines.
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12/06/2017 7:56 pm
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 Posted 12/06/2017  8:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Perfect Error to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks CoinMasters, Great pic and explanations!
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Indeed!
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 Posted 12/07/2017  11:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chase007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
CoinMasters, thanks for catching that you are correct,I posted the wrong quote
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 Posted 12/08/2017  4:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinMasters to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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CoinMasters, thanks for catching that you are correct

What's that? Would you repeat that please? Especially the last part, I'm not used to hearing that. LOL
No sweat, I figured that was what you did.
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