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Should I Try To Clean This 1852 Cent?

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 Posted 12/26/2017  3:21 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Bump111 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I posted a photo of this coin several months back. It has been in the family for several generations. When I inherited it, it was wrapped in some sort of clear tape...

I haven't used acetone on copper coins:

1. Should I put it in acetone?
2. Do you think it would remove decades-old tape residue?
3. If it will, would the toning be even worse?

My thinking is that the coin can't really be harmed too much more than the well-intentioned tape wrap has already done. All comments welcomed. Thanks.




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 Posted 12/26/2017  3:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You've thought this through well. Acetone won't hurt it, but may well not improve the overall appearance.
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 Posted 12/26/2017  3:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bump111 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, Frog. Still pondering what I'm going to do - leave alone or experiment. I certainly don't want to do more harm.
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 Posted 12/26/2017  3:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
my opinions:


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1. Should I put it in acetone?


yes, pure acetone


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2. Do you think it would remove decades-old tape residue?


yes, most likely


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3. If it will, would the toning be even worse?


No, but it almost certainly won't be any better. On the other hand, starting now the toning may start to even out for future generations in your family. If you keep the adhesive/tape on the coin the difference will only get worse with time.
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 Posted 12/26/2017  4:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bump111 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
. If you keep the adhesive/tape on the coin the difference will only get worse with time.


Excellent point! I hadn't even considered that
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 Posted 12/26/2017  4:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mark1959 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah - give it a 100% acetone soak - I give all my newly aquirred Large cents at least a 1/2 hour per side with no bad results.
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 Posted 12/26/2017  4:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bump111 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm yielding to the experts. She is in acetone as of 5 minutes ago.

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 Posted 12/26/2017  4:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chesterb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I dab the coin with a cotton ball once in a while too. That helps get off some of the harder to dislodge gunk. Don't wipe it..just do a dab on each side.
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 Posted 12/26/2017  4:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bump111 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, chester. I have QTips I can use
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 Posted 12/26/2017  6:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A little dab will do ya.

Not to be unkind, but I don't think you can hurt that poor girl too much.
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 Posted 12/26/2017  6:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bump111 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well here is the old girl's debutant reveal:





The first photos are under the scope like the originals were. The second is with the new camera with ambient light. She does look better, but I'm afraid the damage was done. Thanks for the info everybody.
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One interesting fact is that you've shown us the result of such an attempt.

In the future if I see such an odd bird, ill have a much better idea about how it achieved that look.
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Now I'm wondering if I should leave it out of the flip and see if it will oxidize. It's a fairly well struck cent and I think it may look better with a brown coat. Thoughts? Will it ever tone properly?
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 Posted 12/27/2017  09:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Best leave it as is. Yes leaving it out to get more Oxygen will darken it but where the tape was at, the darkening will never be as dark as the rest of the coin. However, as long as it's your coin, why not try.
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 Posted 12/27/2017  10:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The first photos are under the scope like the originals were. The second is with the new camera with ambient light. She does look better, but I'm afraid the damage was done.
I agree, she does look better.


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Now I'm wondering if I should leave it out of the flip and see if it will oxidize. It's a fairly well struck cent and I think it may look better with a brown coat. Thoughts? Will it ever tone properly?
I think it is worth a shot, but I think it will take a while. There is the possibility that you can handle it some, get some grime on it to affect the oxidation rate, then rinse again with acetone before it does any permanent damage. I could be wrong so look to other comments before committing.

Another option is to make her a pocket piece. You will loose a grade point or two, but could end up looking better overall.

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