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1913 wheat penny error, I think..  
 

 
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 Posted 02/12/2018  01:21 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Loupedeloupe to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I would like to ask you all for feedback on this Wheat penny. It might just be worn, but it's missing the second "t" in trust and also portions of Abe's shirt closest to the year. I was thinking lamination error due to the date being normal wear but around it werent. Please don't hesitate to tell me it's nothing and I'm just wanting it to be something.


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 Posted 02/12/2018  01:31 am  Show Profile   Check Crazyb0's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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It is two things, neither is a major error. First it is a late stage die state. It has been polished ans the die has been worn down so the details are not very deep any more , then the polishing crap fills the details left, called a struck through grease error. Secondly, it is die deterioration where die flow has caused the metal to flows outwards to the edges and must be milled down to fit the holders. Notice how close to the rim the letters are.


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 Posted 02/12/2018  01:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Loupedeloupe to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
While waiting for a reply, I started reading other threads and saw the suggestion and downloaded both. I'm reading them now. I'm not into it for money, I just truly enjoy the looking and the susequent research.
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I believe you got the best answer there, Loupedeloupe.

Read through those PDFs, examine the illustrations, and by the end, you will have a big head start on variety and error coins. Of course, there will always be more to learn, and experience to be had. It's fun!

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 Posted 02/12/2018  07:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think it is mostly circulation wear,a well worn coin.
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 Posted 02/12/2018  08:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CJ18850 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to CCF! Excellent explanation by Crazyb0!
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 Posted 02/12/2018  12:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also the slight issue with grease fill in that one device. The coin also looks like it has been cleaned several times during is life. If certain types of solvents/cleaners/acid baths happen, it removes a layer of the coin each time this happens. Thus a AU coin after a cleaning may look nicer, but a layer of the finish is removed. The color will turn pink and will ruin the collectable value for a long time. After the nice look and the top layer of the coin is gone, it soon fades again. So best to leave coins alone to keep what value they may have there.
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 Posted 02/18/2018  01:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Loupedeloupe to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you everyone for the welcomes! I purchased a big lot of coins from an estate and unfortunately it looks like most of the older coins were washed or dipped in acid. I prefer the character of the dirty coin. Just look what they did to this Indian Head penny! It's such a shame..

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A lot of the older coins were cleaned and sometimes several times. Circulation wear, grease fill in the dies, cleaning, buffing, coin scratches and other forms of torture alter coins in a bad way. So discerning an worn coin, polished coin, altered coin or error coin can at times be hard to figure out. Best if they were all AU/BU coins, not often the case.
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

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