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1936 & 1937 Proof Sets LOTS of pictures - Polished Business Strikes

 
 
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 Posted 04/15/2018  11:50 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add acloco to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Very lucky to purchase both of these "proof" sets.

As you view the pictures, remember this: Some unscrupulous person tried to alter business strike coins to make them appear as proof strikes, obviously, for financial gain.

Unfortunately, somebody paid up for these, at some point in time.

It is my opinion, the 1936 set was "enhanced" first, because the polishing was rather complete. The 1937 set still leaves a lot to be desired. (Will upload the 1937 pictures later today)

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The polish job on the obverse took off the high points!!


Reverse of the 36 actually looks frosted on the wheatstalks.


Look at those CLEAN fields!


Got color?


Collectors DREAM of Buffalo nickels with this color and detail.



Ugh...the fields tell the story on this Mercury.



When the "upgrader" selects an XF coin, even polished, the example will always be XF!

"moonlike surface" is a good description of the fields?!?!



At arms length and bad lighting, the half might just pass initial inspection.


The reverse even has flat rims and a "gently aged" look.


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Time for the "enhanced" 1937 set.












I am certain that the person who polished all of these coins, removed a "D" or an "S" from the reverse of this quarter.



Rims are definitely not square with the world.

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 Posted 04/15/2018  4:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting. Someone certainly mad quite a profit with these. How did you come across them?
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At $9k, someone got taken for a serious ride. Ouch.
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You are so right about doing as much due diligence as possible. I'm finding that if we as collectors/buyers do not remain "aware" then we'll get just what we are hoping for. And this is only possible at real costs, not the bargains of the century.

Good hunting and good luck to all.
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 Posted 04/15/2018  5:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Do you think it's possible that some, but not all, of these could actually BE proofs (lower denominations) that were combined with other non-proofs to give a certain overall "look" to the sets?
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I purchased from another coin page - he purchased a collection that was presented to him. Of course, told the seller that these were not proof coins at all.

The plastic envelopes that the coins are stapled in, were never used in the 30's.

Absolutely, without a doubt, every single coin in these groups, is a business strike that has been polished.

I think they did a fair job with the 36 dated set and ran out of patience when they tackled the 1937 set.

The 1937 quarter is extremely odd, because a mint mark was obviously removed....on an XF coin!
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 Posted 04/15/2018  7:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The two set add together isn't worth 1/10 of what the price labeled as. Incredible!

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 Posted 04/15/2018  9:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aristarchus123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What a crazy story. Thanks for posting this.
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Was going to say they originally shoulda slipped a mintmarked coin in ther, would have probably gone unnoticed! Until I saw the quarter...



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 Posted 04/16/2018  11:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2012 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a good thing that you got these sets, so they can't fool future collectors.

Makes me wonder how many the set did fool before you bought it.
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 Posted 04/16/2018  6:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
WOW! Trying to pass it off to somebody that doesn't know anything about coins.....truly sad!
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Special thanks to Wes of Utah Coin.

Will be presenting these sets to both coin clubs that I am a member of.

Eventually, will, more than likely, donate to ANA. Would like to do this when I have the time and spare $$ to attend a summer seminar session.
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acloco, I sent you a PM.
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