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 Posted 05/17/2018  12:15 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add navsup to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I came across this penny in a bag I purchased at an on line auction. It's a 1958-P that I put under the microscope and notice what looks like doubling on IN GOD WE TRUST, looks like a like ghosting toward the rim. In LIBERTY the letters look a bit odd, maybe too wide? The back looks normal with possible a ghosting on the E. PLURIBUS UNUM, mostly on the beginning of the writing. I don't think its glare from the coin's surface, I turned it several different ways and still saw the ghosting. What's the communities opinion? A grader, a keeper, or just a little eager viewing on my part? Thanks in advance.





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 Posted 05/17/2018  12:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The area you are seeing, shows die wear. The wheat cents of the 1950's dies were way over used. The wear pattern towards the rim is caused by the metal movement, forcing the metal into the shape the dies direct made the dies show a wear pattern because of doing the same thing over and over, made the dies wear towards the rim. This caused the outside edges of the devices to slowly lose that edge. Your coin is a LDS (Late-Die-State) but still struck many more coins before it was retired. Most of the time they we used until the broke. During that era, a lot so strange die events were seen. More than any other time. But your coin was struck with probably with the same die marriage showing the same amount of die wear on each die. While there is no premium for this, but knowing the cause help your knowledge of coins. All dies wear, but your coins dies were getting close to retirement by today's standards, but probably struck hundreds of thousands of more coins. Hope this helps.
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That's heavy Die Deterioration. These 1950's Wheat Cents were notorious for extreme die wear.
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That's heavy Die Deterioration (Die Attrition)


That's not completely true, and your linked pic, Crazyb0, is guilty of this as well. Yes, wear to a die can be called "attrition." However, in distinguishing the types of effects on dies in use, "die attrition" is reserved and not equal to "die deterioration".

This is die attrition:

http://www.error-ref.com/die-attrition-error/

It is a specific result from a malfunction of the press or the alignment of the die in use. Die deterioration, on the other hand, is a normal part of minting coins over time. The two should not be confused.
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 Posted 05/17/2018  5:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add navsup to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the help in identifying the issue with this coin. This was very helpful.I gained some valuable knowledge, and learned a new term!!
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Sorry Spruett. I guess I shouldn't have bothered typing then since I was very tired when I typed that comment.
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