Coin Community Family of Web Sites
Like us on Facebook! Subscribe to our Youtube Channel! Check out our Twitter! Check out our Pinterest!
Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?

Welcome Guest! Need help? Got a question? Inherit some coins?
Our coin forum is completely free! Register Now!

Coin #3 from a friend's father's collection:1909-S VDB Lincoln Cent

 
 
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous Topic Topic Next Topic  
Valued Member
United States
87 Posts
 Posted 06/14/2018  11:12 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add OldMoney to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This, and what appeared to be it's evil twin (a counterfeit 1909-S VDB, not pictured) was the third coin from the collection that caught my eye.

These are the best photos I have. I did not save an image of the counterfeit. Sorry.



Pillar of the Community
Learn More...
United States
703 Posts
 Posted 06/14/2018  11:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add two_tonevf35 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sweet, thanks for sharing these!
PCGS submissions 2005-2018. Mailings(21) Orders(43) / 249 coin attempts. 12 Fails(5%) / Member vouchers(19%) Economy(62%) Regular(13%) Free(3%) Express(3%) / Barber 50c (46%) Classic Commemorative (38%) Hawaii(3%) SCD (6%) Other(3%)/ Fails: Cleaned(2) Alt surfaces(1) Scratch(1) Damage(1) "86"(3) 2 Columbian & 1 BTW; Min Grade(2) DNC(2)-Same coin NGC XF40 Barber 50c. Express fees paid by seller (cross guarantee). Kept the coin & later submitted raw: PCGS XF40 [eyeroll] Fails: Econ(8) Regular(2) Express(2)/// Other TPGs: ICG (2011-2018): 35/35 NGC: 0 ANACS: 0
Pillar of the Community
United States
3383 Posts
 Posted 06/15/2018  12:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chase007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bedrock of the Community
United States
15217 Posts
 Posted 06/15/2018  12:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Odd, the MM position is almost exactly where it is on my fake. This is a genuine VDB with an added MM:




Lincoln Cent Lover!
Valued Member
United States
463 Posts
 Posted 06/16/2018  8:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oober to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Doesn't look even close too yours Thad. OP's mint mark is quite a bit left of yours...
Valued Member
United States
117 Posts
 Posted 06/17/2018  2:20 pm  Show Profile   Check Johnathan55's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Johnathan55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Time to put my incredibly poor image editing skills to the test!

I took both coins above and ran a red line through the "0" in "1909."







I'm not experienced enough in this hobby yet to say if that's a real coin (especially one that valuable!) but OP's coin does not appear to have the same mintmark placement as the fake coin. Hope I helped a little!
Edited by Johnathan55
06/17/2018 2:27 pm
Pillar of the Community
United States
1302 Posts
 Posted 06/17/2018  6:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Comparison with real MM #4 shows nothing out of the ordinary.
Source, and decent quick reference for comparison:
https://www.PCGS.com/news/counterfe...incoln-cents
Valued Member
United States
87 Posts
 Posted 06/17/2018  11:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OldMoney to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, my fried had the coin authenticated and slabbed, but its evil twin was sent back in a body bag. I sure hope we took the photo of the real coin! Too long ago for my memory. Anyway, the intent of this post and the previous two (1917-D SLQ and 1916-D MD) was to share some enjoyable moments and photos. I am currently helping another friend with his dad's collection. It is a lot of work, but it is loads of fun! Such a fulfilling experience when I can use my numismatic knowledge to help a non-numismatist friend determine which are the most desirable coins in their collection! Who knows, maybe I'll get them interested in the hobby?
Pillar of the Community
Learn More...
United States
3111 Posts
 Posted 06/18/2018  07:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BStrauss3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Johnathan, comparing location of a fake isn't useful, given they are applied by hand, variations are to be expected.

For a coin like this, where there are four known dies and the MM was applied to the die by hand, the alignment is one of the key diagnostics.

What kbbpll did - comparing it to the known genuine - is the appropriate standard.
-----Burton
45 year / Life ANA member (joined 12/1/1973)
Owned by four cats and a wife of 35 years (joined 1983)
  Previous Topic Topic Next Topic  
 
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.

Coin Community Member eBay Sales

Certified Coins   Certified VAMs   Certified Errors  




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2018 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2018 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.55 seconds to rattle this change. Powered By: Snitz Forums 2000 Version 3.4.05