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Die Rotation on a 1868 two cent coin.

 
 
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 Posted 06/22/2018  9:41 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add KHatt to your friends list Get a Link to this Message

Hi, I primarily collect Canadian Coins, but I recently bought a 2 cent coin at a flea market in Niagara Falls, Canada.

It was neat and the price was good. Grade is Fine

When I got it home I noticed it had a die rotation of about 12 degrees.

Is this a common error for the type? Does it command any premium?

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 Posted 06/23/2018  12:12 am  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Members have said that Rotated Dies are more common on older coins from the 19th century. In order for a coin with a Rotated Die error to carry a premium over face value, it has to be rotated 90 degrees or more.
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 Posted 06/23/2018  08:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KHatt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, that's consistent with my experience collecting Canadian and British coins.

Thanks!
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 Posted 06/23/2018  09:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Tolerance is usually considered to be 15 degrees. I don't think it has to be rotated 90 degrees or more, I'd say interest starts developing at around 45 degrees.
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 Posted 06/23/2018  10:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
with Conder101.


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Members have said that Rotated Dies are more common on older coins from the 19th century.


Correct. However, as Conder101 said, only 45 degrees rotation is required for it to have collector interest.
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 Posted 06/23/2018  10:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1865-1869 two cents are notorious for rotations. They are relatively easy to find.

Below 30%+ there is little collector interest.

But it's still neat
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