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1975 p LMC. What happened to this coin?

 
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 Posted 07/10/2018  12:14 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Cuzimcute00 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Just curious if anyone could tell me if this is mint damage? The letters look "smeared" in some places.





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 Posted 07/10/2018  12:28 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just Post Strike Damage. It's a Parking Lot coin. The metal has been pushed and flattened. This didn't happen at the U.S. Mint.
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More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
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 Posted 07/10/2018  2:12 pm  Show Profile   Check chafemasterj's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add chafemasterj to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
a not-so-bad parking lot coin.
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 Posted 07/10/2018  4:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This defines "Parking Lot coin".
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 Posted 07/10/2018  4:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chase007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ouch,,It got run over by a rain deer
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 Posted 07/10/2018  7:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cuzimcute00 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I took this to my friend in town and had him look at it. He told me if you were truly coin guys you would see this unfold in your head. Quadruple stamped coin with smear trails. Rotated the way of the arrow on the bottom but stayed vertical in the press. It might have been the coin that was stuck in the collar as the press stopped? The arrows point to what is the bottom left corner of the monument. :)


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 Posted 07/10/2018  7:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Time to find a new coin friend.
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 Posted 07/10/2018  7:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KenKat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That or it got run over in a parking lot. My vote is parking lot...
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 Posted 07/10/2018  7:33 pm  Show Profile   Check Adam_E's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is 100% without a doubt post strike damage.

It sounds like you're trying to describe a stutter strike: http://www.error-ref.com/stutterstrike-a/

or possibly a skidding coin error: http://www.error-ref.com/skidding-coin-errors/

Neither of which present on your coin, an in collar double strike would also not look anything like this, it would look more like this: https://coins.ha.com/itm/errors/191...1261-17700.s

notice how you can clearly make out multiple distinct devices? two eyes, two chins, two sets of legs on the buffalo, two sets of letters on the periphery, etc. this is not evident on your coin.

It's PMD.
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 Posted 07/10/2018  8:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jasper62 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 07/10/2018  8:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim0815 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see a 1975 Pinto doing a burnout in a parking lot and poor Abe was under the tire. That's what I see unfolding in my head!
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 Posted 07/10/2018  8:49 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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He told me if you were truly coin guys you would see this unfold in your head. Quadruple stamped coin with smear trails. Rotated the way of the arrow on the bottom but stayed vertical in the press. It might have been the coin that was stuck in the collar as the press stopped? The arrows point to what is the bottom left corner of the monument. :)


I hate to say this, but unfortunately, your friend is 100 percent incorrect, and has fed you false information. Your friend needs to do a lot of research on coins. This coin was damaged outside of the U.S. Mint, and it's 100 percent Post Strike Damage. It can be safely put back into circulation. That's the end of the story. Please listen to us. We're correct. Don't listen to your friend.


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I agree with you Bobby.
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More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
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 Posted 07/11/2018  11:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cuzimcute00 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I got yelled at for not taking better pictures, and using proper lighting. So I apologize. I invested in a macro lens. Here ya go gentlemen... Lincoln's second, third, and fourth ears. ;) And proof I'm not crazy. Lol.





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 Posted 07/12/2018  08:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chase007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
cuzimcute, you are doing the right think by asking questions and posting various pictures.everyone is trying to help and provide you with the best information and unfortunately this is not what you and your friend want it to be! imagining and the reality are Two different things. , this coin has been driven over in a parking lot and has been scraped and damaged, just throw it back in the circulation and move on!you will find a good one sooner rather than later.


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 Posted 07/12/2018  10:04 am  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Excellent photos!
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 Posted 07/12/2018  10:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I got yelled at for not taking better pictures, and using proper lighting.


Sorry, I don't see where you were "yelled at."



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He told me if you were truly coin guys you would see this unfold in your head.


We are. It's just that your friend doesn't know much about coins and the minting process. It is 100% Post Mint Damage. ( PMD)


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Quadruple stamped coin with smear trails. Rotated the way of the arrow on the bottom but stayed vertical in the press. It might have been the coin that was stuck in the collar as the press stopped? The arrows point to what is the bottom left corner of the monument. :)


Absolutely incorrect.


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Here ya go gentlemen... Lincoln's second, third, and fourth ears. ;) And proof I'm not crazy. Lol.


They aren't ears...It is PMD. (Post Mint Damage)


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