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New Member
United States
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I'm not sure if I'm just seeing things, but I believe this is a "phantom" MM behind the 5 in the date. In Microsoft Paint, I blew up the image to 400%. I created a "D" from the original MM and pasted over the "phantom" MM. The inner arc and other points seems to match up perfectly. I'm I just seeing things or is this legit?   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
6953 Posts |
Sorry, all I see is some PMD. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
13655 Posts |
That's just a stain, not an RPM. It's Post Strike Damage (it happened after it left the U.S. Mint). This is called paradollia. That's when your mind see things that aren't actually there.
Errers and Varietys. More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/3029611988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900 1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624 Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638 |
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New Member
United States
19 Posts |
I took a couple angled images. Wouldn't PMD show signs of gouging? It looks like part of the 5 is going out following the shape where the MM would be.   |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
13655 Posts |
There's no RPM as I already said.
Errers and Varietys. More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/3029611988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900 1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624 Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638 |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
29671 Posts |
Possibly a die chip or stain or some sort, but whatever it is, it's not a misplaced mintmark.  |
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New Member
United States
19 Posts |
Just wishful thinking. The eyes sees what they want to see.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
6895 Posts |
Plus weren't MM's placed last on the dies - so no way to put one under the numbers in the date.
"I have enough money to last me the rest of my life, unless I have to buy something." Working on a Dansco 8166 Kennedy half album. 137pcs ,of 160 total, so far |
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United States
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Valued Member
United States
397 Posts |
In order to get the mint mark under the date it would have had to have hit the die after the date was put in. I see what your talking about though. It's def raised so it's not a stain. Maybe that particular area of the die got dented in by something? But if that is the case, wouldn't it be possible that when the MM was stamped in the die, the punch jumped/bounced when being hmered manually and that's where it landed. It's only like a third the height as the other devices which is what you would expect happen in a bounce. Not saying that's what it is, prob just a dent but am I talking crazy for theorizing that or does it happen from time to time? Feel free to tell me it's rediculous or explain why it's not possible, genuinely trying to learn something.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
32864 Posts |
It is not raised like a miss punch would make. It is just a stain. Also it is too small to be a mint mark.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
13655 Posts |
 To CCF JLAM2018! It's nice to see new members join CCF! I hope you post more on CCF in the future. 
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Valued Member
United States
397 Posts |
So it's not raised at all? It looks raised in my pics. Oh well. I posted a penny a while back that has the same anomoly as the penny JLAM posted except it's on the first 9 and it's a 1958. I'm gonna repost it in a new thread. Would like to revisit it
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Moderator
United States
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to the Community, JLAM2018!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1517 Posts |
There's not enough there to determine if it is truly another mintmark punch or not.
It's in a common place for die chips, could it be a die crack?
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