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Legendary 1965 SMS Penny?

 
 
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 Posted 08/09/2018  2:41 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add DeathSeeker to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
So I've come across a penny that highly represents the 1965 SMS penny which is worth quite a bit, here are the pictures, I will let the experts decide.


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 Posted 08/09/2018  2:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gforced to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a normal 1965 to me..The SMS really are not worth that much but there is a small premium on them I suppose.
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 Posted 08/09/2018  2:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DeathSeeker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What makes you say that mine isn't a SMS? I've compared them fairly well and they look quite similar
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 Posted 08/09/2018  2:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not an SMS but even if it were, it would be worth around $2.50 in mint condition.
Don't forget, there was over 2.3 million minted so they are fairly common.
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 Posted 08/09/2018  2:54 pm  Show Profile   Check BigSilver's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BigSilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is the 1964 SMS that is valuable. The 1965 SMS is very common.
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 Posted 08/09/2018  3:15 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's a normal Business Strike coin. Not the SMS one.
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 Posted 08/09/2018  3:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DeathSeeker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wait how can you tell?
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 Posted 08/09/2018  3:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Death dude, It is a standard business strike. How can I tell, let's compare to a known graded SMS coin. Look at the steps on the Memorial, your's is a mushed out VLDS struck reverse. And also, look at the bays in the memorial, overpolised has removed the shadow columns. SMS's were on new polished dies with standard planchets. Now yor Obverse does show signs of an earlier die state, maybe a late-EDS or Mid state for the sharper details.




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 Posted 08/09/2018  3:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yours is definitely not a SMS coin. Even if it was it would be worth a few bucks.
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 Posted 08/09/2018  3:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GMS5 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is my 1965 SMS for any comparisons needed.


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Ahhh crazybo broke out the stash SMS 67 example in an old green holder. What else you holding out on us crazybo?
Seeker in no time you will know the SMS cents in your sleep from the circulation strike coins. Occasionally SMS coins are found in circulation and with wear are still easily attributed. Its the rim that's the dead giveaway followed by clear strong die state. You can buy an SMS set still in the holder for 10-12 bucks on the bay or a coin show compare one in hand to your examples and its night and day.
I have a 1966 set I cracked open to show kids the differences, I let them handle them carefully by the rim and move them to and fro under a loop. You will get this down pat just keep learning.
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