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 Posted 09/03/2018  10:11 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add eternallogan to your friends list Get a Link to this Message




I'm a young man new to coin collecting and I recently came across this Half Dollar at a flea market. As you can see the vendor assured me it was a 1921D but I would like to make sure, so any help would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance

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 Posted 09/03/2018  10:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I'm a young man new to coin collecting


The best advice I can honestly give you is to never buy key dates raw like that, and realize that being younger many dealers will try and take advantage of you
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 Posted 09/03/2018  10:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eternallogan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you basebal21 for the sound advice. Fortunately I got it in a cheap lot with several other coins, so it's not a huge loss regardless.
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 Posted 09/03/2018  11:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I did some sleuthing and I have come to the conclusion that this has a good chance of being a 1921 Walking Liberty half.



The top layer in the sandwich is an enlarged view of the photo provided by the OP.

It shows that the last digit of the date is a 1.

It also appears that the third digit may be a 2 or 3.

The only dates when a Walker was issued with a 1 as the last digit were 1921 and 1941. There was no 1931 walker issued due to the depression.

The second layer of the sandwich pictured above shows a VG08 1921 walker. The third layer is am MS65 1941 walker.

Note that the 1 in the 1921 is high relative to the 2.

The 1 in the 1941 is low relative to the 4.

Looks like the 1 in the OP's coin is high relative to the third digit.

Although it is not conclusive, I believe that the OP's coin is more likely than not to be a key date 1921 walker.

Let me know if you have any issues with the analysis.
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 Posted 09/03/2018  11:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Fortunately I got it in a cheap lot with several other coins, so it's not a huge loss regardless.


That's actually a perfect example of what I was saying. If they were convinced they really had something valuable, why would they give it away like that?

Most likely as far as that dealers concerned he upsold something a bit and was happy to get some money
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 Posted 09/04/2018  06:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hoxsie454 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As a long term collector who has never sent a coin in for grading, I want to ask a question: would anyone here submit this coin for grading? Would a third party grading service even slab a coin with a questionable date?

EternalLogan may have got it at melt, it satisfies his current interest and it is a pretty enough coin to flash around amongst friends for discussion like he is doing here so its fun to do and that is a big part of collecting.
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 Posted 09/04/2018  06:40 am  Show Profile   Check Fuzzy317's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You don't seem to be looking for opinions on grade, so I moved your post to the appropriate section for the proper attention.
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 Posted 09/04/2018  08:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Doesn't really matter ; in my book If you can't read date or mint mark on an very worn coin then it's for the junk silver bin .
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 Posted 09/04/2018  12:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eternallogan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for the expert analysis numismatic student, that's exactly what I was looking for.
Should I send it to PCGS or NGC for grading in hopes that they will acknowledge the year?
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 Posted 09/04/2018  12:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would not waste the money.



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 Posted 09/04/2018  1:01 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can anyone see a mint mark ?
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 Posted 09/04/2018  4:15 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To CCF! It's pretty much dateless. It's not worth having it graded by a TPG, as it would cost way more than what the coin is worth. I would still save it, in your junk Silver pile.
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 Posted 09/04/2018  6:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eternallogan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the responses, I probably won't send it in now. I was just wondering if it would be worth the gamble of them possibly putting the date on.
I'll keep the coin regardless and be more careful next time!
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 Posted 09/14/2018  09:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cbatts29 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think that it has to be a 1941 just because they are more common, and you said it was cheep. If you sell it, I would put it as dateless. Its not defined enough.
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 Posted 12/04/2018  10:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For the Liberty Walking half dollar, the Denver mint mark style changed significantly in mid-1934. If you can post a closeup of the mm, it will very likely be possible to rule out either the 1921 or 1941 date.
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