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That's what I was thinking too. In order to be fairly assured of a full box of unmixed NIFC coins (And we still can't say for sure they are unmixed there may be a few "odd" coins in the rolls somewhere. Can't be sure they are solid without opening ALL of them) you would need to dump MULTIPLE boxes of NIFC coins at the bank so the supply for rolling would be overwhelmingly NIFC coins.

Other possiblity is that since halves don't really circulate, someone dumped ONE box worth, they went to Loomis but they didn't have any other halves to roll and just dumped in the one box worth and rolled it.
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 Posted 09/18/2018  10:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jordanrj28 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's probably what happened. I did pick around 15 and they are all 2017. Some with no dings scratches scuffs or discoloration. I'll probably keep those. I'll be honest felt kinda bad opening them.
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I'll be honest felt kinda bad opening them.


For those I wouldn't feel bad. If it was me I would go through them and see what was in there
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What appears to be happening is the FED is running out of half dollars so they're taking whatever is in their inventory (even NIFCs) and sending them out. I can't recall any year where people have run into this many brand new, current year or prior year NIFC coins before. 2018 has been very different than other years in this regard.

I've found a good number of 2018-D dated halves in boxes this year. One box had 111 of them. Another had 24. A more recent box yielded 9.

IMHO, the best thing to do is to put them on ebay. I've had some good success selling my 2018-Ds in 5, 10, and 20 coin lots. Interestingly, single and two coin lots have not moved at all despite very competitive prices.
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What appears to be happening is the FED is running out of half dollars so they're taking whatever is in their inventory (even NIFCs) and sending them out.

Problem with that is that the Fed doesn't HAVE NIFC coin in their inventory except for whatever gets dumped at the bank by collectors that purchased them at a premium. And those would most likely be well mixed with other coin. Also if they were lat low they probably would have placed an order for halves with the mint. I'm sure that would have shown up in the numismatic press "Fed ordering half dollars again!". We would have also seen a jump in the mintage figures reported by the mint. I don't believe there is any big jump in mintage for 2017 halves.

Maybe they DID slip something past us. Checking mintage figures and comparing them to previous years the 2017 D mintage is about 1 million coins higher than it should be, and the 2018's are running about 2 1/2 million coins or so higher than normal for both P and D.

2014 P 2.5 M D 2.1 M
2015 P 2.3 M D 2.3 M
2016 P 2.1 M D 2.1 M
2017 P 1.8 M D 2.9 M
2018 P 5.4 M D 4.8 M and the years isn't over yet.

Now the NIFC coin mintages have been what was needed to fill the mint sets and the roll and bag sales. If they are still NIFC why the big jump in mintages? I don't thing sales of mint sets, bags, or rolls have suddenly doubled.
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. I don't thing sales of mint sets, bags, or rolls have suddenly doubled.


Every one of those currently has lower sales than last year and some of them significantly lower
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Maybe they DID slip something past us... I don't thing sales of mint sets, bags, or rolls have suddenly doubled.
Agreed. The Fed ran low and placed an order with the Mint.

The half dollars being NIFC was not mandated like it was for the dollar coins. The lack of demand made it de facto NIFC.
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But why haven't we heard about the Fed ordering halves again after not ordering any for 16 years? I would have thought that would have been worth an article somewhere.
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None of this makes sense. The Feds were low? I wasn't aware these were stockpiled for circulation use? And I can't see there being a high demand from the sales of sets. I haven't bought a current mint set in a long time as they are bloated with dollars and quarters I don't care about and not to mention overpriced.
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But why haven't we heard about the Fed ordering halves again after not ordering any for 16 years? I would have thought that would have been worth an article somewhere.
Perhaps it just flew under the radar? The news has been rather, uh, busy as of late.


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I wasn't aware these were stockpiled for circulation use?
Yes. The fed having a stockpile is why they quit ordering them from the Mint in 2002.
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But the question remains. Who is using that many halves to the point where the feds need to replenish their stockpiles?
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Who is using that many halves to the point where the feds need to replenish their stockpiles?


Casinos and foreign countries, but refer to the first one casinos
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The casino useage is interesting because most if not all casinos use cash vouchers for winnings now. At least the dozen of them I’ve been to do.
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But the question remains. Who is using that many halves to the point where the feds need to replenish their stockpiles?
Well, roll hunters, of course!
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2018 P 5.4 M D 4.8 M and the years isn't over yet.


Something really odd is up here. What could possibly spiking the demand and causing the two mints to produce over 10 million halves in less than nine months?

Some odd things have been showing up of late in our CRH threads. Three months ago, someone got an entire brand new box of 1995-P halves:
http://goccf.com/t/321385

And now we have boxes of 2017 coins showing up and an increased production of 2018 coins. I'm willing to bet some people have probably found entire boxes of 2018 coins by this point.
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