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 Posted 09/20/2018  8:57 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Jim MacKenzie to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
After more than six months of research, I finally published an online grading guide for Canadian coins. It isn't absolutely complete, but should have enough entries to get you in the ball park for your coins. As time progresses I will add new images as soon as I find them.

It covers all grades between P1 and MS67, all denominations, all monarchs from 1858 to 1952 (and I will eventually add 1953 to date). I use high resolution photos (3000 by 1500 pixels), the vast majority are of professionally graded and slabbed coins. I ran the entire guide past the coin club's resident grading experts to make sure they agreed with each grade.

This guide is absolutely free for all to use, and I would appreciate any feedback you all have.

http://www.saskatooncoinclub.ca/art...ns-ver2.html
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 Posted 09/20/2018  9:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fourmack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Absolutely AWESOME Jim that must have taken you a very long time - longer than 6mths
This chart will help a lot of people

THANKS
Cheers Don

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 Posted 09/20/2018  10:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinBuffalo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I love older Canadian coins and I love this. I think I stumbled across it last month when I was looking for grade examples on a 1914 Large Cent. It was useful then and I'm sure will be even more useful now. Thanks so much for this, I'll definitely be using it for future references.
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 Posted 09/20/2018  11:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks , like a lot of time and effort has gone to produce this, really helpful to all, thanks and welcome !
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 Posted 09/21/2018  01:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim MacKenzie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well to be perfectly honest it took 7 months of 12-16 hours a day, 6 days a week. I now have a database of 5900 PCGS graded Canadian coins, with the denomination, year, variety and grade recorded for each. It has come in really handy for creating infographics and articles.

Unfortunately ICCS has no internet presence, let alone photos of each coin. NGC shows photos of each graded coin if you enter the cert number AND grade, but their photos are basically crap. I needed very high resolution images. PCGS gold shield images are usually bigger than 5000 by 2500 pixels, but I shrank them all down to 3000 by 1500 just to save some room on the server.

By the time the guide is absolutely complete I will have found 1053 photos... lol

I will have to compromise on a lot of the Elizabeth II and/or really low grade coin photos, simply because most people don't bother sending an AG3 1962 one cent for slabbing and grading...

You can't do a search in PCGS for a specific year, denomination and grade. The best you can do is to spot a slabbed coin elsewhere, write down the cert number, start 30 numbers lower and check each one up to about 30 numbers higher. a lot of people will send a bunch of coins in one shipment. I have found as many as 150 consecutive certs...
Edited by Jim MacKenzie
09/21/2018 01:34 am
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 Posted 09/21/2018  06:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For years, the only fairly accurate grading guide was CanadianCoinoisseur and then it disappeared. It has been archived now.
http://web.archive.org/web/20130902115503/http://coinoisseur.com/GradiNGCoins.html

Thank you for your efforts. Everyone should save it as an immediate reference.
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 Posted 09/21/2018  07:37 am  Show Profile   Check TheDeductible's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add TheDeductible to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fantastic job. The community owes you a debt of gratitude for your hard work and dedication.

You would think Canadian Coins would be a good way to reference the Newfoundland series of coins but they seem to be graded much tougher by ICCS. It doesn't make sense to me. I've never found a good reason why.
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 Posted 09/21/2018  08:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Phil310 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What a nice resource! Well done! Thanks for sharing it.

I haven't got past the 1858-1859 large cents yet. Lots of nice varieties represented there.
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 Posted 09/21/2018  08:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papeldog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
very nice work Jim MacKenzie, congrats and thank you for sharing it will be very useful for many
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 Posted 09/21/2018  09:56 am  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think this is awesome!! And, not that I want to pile more work on you, but I would also love to see this expanded to Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, PEI and NFLD coins...

Of course, grading is an opinion, and I disagree with some of the circulated grades - but hey, it is impossible to have everyone in agreement on this topic.

Send me a PM when you get to the 1-cent coins 1953 to modern, and dollars 1968-1986. I can help you out with some higher grade images. I also have lowball (pocket piece) images of post-1968 50c and nickel dollars (some are listed on my eBay store, as well as ICCS certified lowball silver dollars - feel free to grab those images).
"Research is what I am doing, when I don't know what I am doing" --Wernher von Braun

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 Posted 09/21/2018  10:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chequer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice work, Jim Looks like you found yourself a few more images too!
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 Posted 09/21/2018  10:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pginrh to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great work...I have always had trouble with Mint State George VI coins
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 Posted 09/21/2018  11:29 am  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Again, this is awesome...

I note you give credit to Heritage Auctions, PCGS and ICCS in your images. You might want to check with your Coin Club to ensure that your club has the proper permission (copyright of photos and derivative works) to use the photos obtained from other sources outside of your Coin Club. I suspect since this for a non-profit organization, there should be no issue with Fair Use - but it is always a good thing to confirm so.

"Research is what I am doing, when I don't know what I am doing" --Wernher von Braun

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 Posted 09/21/2018  1:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim MacKenzie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To SPP-Ottawa:
I obtained full written permission from all corporate sources, with the provision that our club never makes any money from it. The guide is a public service, for education only.
No need to get permission for images taken from E-Bay ads because once they are published on E-Bay they are effectively in the public domain (took a long time to confirm that). But in quite a few cases I did get permission from E-Bay sellers, and a couple of them actually offered several more images.

Actually, there are two images in another article of mine that I was granted full internet publication rights to, just because I reported a coin dealer in the US who was claiming copyright and threatening legal action if I used the photos. Too bad the photos in question were taken by The Royal Mint's head archival photographer, and the photo was of the 1911 Pattern Dollar coin that is in the Bank of Canada Currency Museum... lol

When they replied to me that they were going to start legal action on the dealer they asked if I would like anything. I said "The photo of the reverse is out there on the net, but there is nothing for the obverse. I assume your photographer shot both?"

That's when they sent me the files along with an e-mail giving our club formal publication permission:
http://www.saskatooncoinclub.ca/art...tml#1911-dol

Just for fun they also sent me the photos of the lead pattern dollar...
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09/21/2018 3:04 pm
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 Posted 09/21/2018  1:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim MacKenzie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To SPP-Ottawa:
I would LOVE to use your F-2 1935 and 1936 dollar images, as well as your G-6 1954 dollar! They will fill 3 holes!
If you agree, I want to add credit to the bottom right corner of each finished image. What would you like me to write?

Would you mind e-mailing all 3 of the original photos for each(that E-Bay hasn't compressed)?
You can send them to info@saskatooncoinclub.ca
I'm the Webmaster for the club so all e-mails are automatically forwarded to my personal account...
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 Posted 09/21/2018  2:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GMS5 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
WOW! Absolutely stellar job done.
I and many many others here appreciate your hard work.
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