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 Posted 09/23/2018  7:45 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add mail187man to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I couldn't decide if I should post my coins here or the metal detecting forum. Please move if this does not fit here.

I dug this 1802 Draped bust today, and I believe it to be the stemless variety. My questions are, am I correct? Would this be a VF details corrosion? and although it was dug, does it still maintain any value? Thank you all for your opinions ahead of time. All opinions are welcome and taken into consideration.



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 Posted 09/23/2018  8:42 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As a metal detecting find that's insanely cool. As a numismatic item also insane! Worth a few hundred in current condition! Great find!
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 Posted 09/23/2018  8:43 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
and I know as a fellow detectorist you won't tell me, but what state or area was it found in?
My best finds: 1999-WAM:http://goccf.com/t/332161 1988-RDV-6:http://goccf.com/t/335954#2873459 1986-Off-center: http://goccf.com/t/335952
1999 WAM #2:http://goccf.com/t/338710&whichpage=1
1981 Double Struck In Collar: http://goccf.com/t/350199&whichpage=1
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 Posted 09/23/2018  8:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Stemless for sure, wonderful find, congrats!
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 Posted 09/23/2018  8:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mail187man to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm in MA, but also go to New Hampshire.
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 Posted 09/23/2018  10:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kopper Ken to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Stemless with great details...a little lite wash to get the dirt off.

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 Posted 09/23/2018  10:44 pm  Show Profile   Check spruett001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spruett001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Excellent dig!

As mentioned, it is No Stems. It would probably grade Details, but it needs to be rehabbed a little first.

It definitely has numismatic value in that condition!
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 Posted 09/24/2018  07:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There were two stemless wreath reverse dies that year, one used on S-231 and the other on S-242, this is S-231. Both varieties are R-1 very common.
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 Posted 09/24/2018  08:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mail187man to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I looked into it more myself. Looks like ones with corrosion go for around $20-$25 on eBay. That's when they actually do sell. Still pretty good for something that I found in the ground.
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 Posted 11/16/2018  08:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mail187man to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry to re-bump this, but I had another question about this coin. I just got in some Verdi-Care, and was wondering whether or not I should use it on this coin. I have gotten most of the gunk off of it, and was wondering if it would be worth it for preservation.
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 Posted 11/16/2018  09:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Always worth trying to save any coin that is that old.
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 Posted 11/16/2018  09:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mail187man to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Are there any negative effect that Verdi Care may have on it?
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 Posted 11/16/2018  11:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd use the VerdiCare, it might improve the appearance.
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 Posted 11/16/2018  11:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice find.
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 Posted 11/16/2018  1:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I doubt the Verdi-Care will help it, but I don't see how it could hurt it to try it.
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 Posted 11/16/2018  1:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like a natural dug coin as is; using Verdi-Care will likely leave it more blotchy and less natural-looking. I would leave well enough alone.
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