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1916 Lincoln Wheat Cent Possible Matte Proof?

 
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 Posted 10/01/2018  6:28 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Mark1959 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I bought a Mason jar of wheat cents at a garage sale and found this 1916 in it. Has crud on it but the details are so sharp I was wondering if this could possibly be a proof (impared)? I'm not real good at telling matte proofs. If not a proof then this 1916 sure does have some great details - and actual grade? Thanks.



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 Posted 10/01/2018  6:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't see any "Matte" surface, that is like a cameo frosting, makes surface rough. Too smooth, normal BS.
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 Posted 10/01/2018  6:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mark1959 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, didn't get my hopes up but I was taken by the great details on the cent.
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 Posted 10/01/2018  6:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Doubt it's a matte proof. But can you check above EPU and below the rim for any die scratches anyway?
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 Posted 10/01/2018  7:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mark1959 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't see anything SD. Heres what threw me off, letters look like on reverse from DDD but yet the details of the devices are so sharp...




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 Posted 10/01/2018  7:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USSID18 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't have a clue but that's a stunning find Mark! The stain and crud is a shame but still an outstanding strike with all that mint luster! !
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I don't have a clue but that's a stunning find Mark


Yep, story of my life - Go perch fishing and only catch sheephead!
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 Posted 10/01/2018  7:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
GREAT FIND! MS DETAILS

100% not a proof. 1916 was the first year for a new master hub, they are all struck this good.
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 Posted 10/01/2018  7:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not a proof and not a great find. No matte texture and check out the thin reverse rims, not to mention the chink. Grade: Unc details (ED). The coin has very little value in my opinion.
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 Posted 10/01/2018  8:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mark1959 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ahh , Thank you Thad!
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 Posted 10/01/2018  8:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Mark - Hey, just saying. Tell me anything you see in this coin that creates value. The obverse is discolored with evident environmental damage from K10 to K4, no hope of restoration at all. Reverse rim chink. It deserved to be in a Mason jar.

Honestly, where is the value here?
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Yep, story of my life - Go perch fishing and only catch sheephead!
I know how you feel. I go bassing and catch channel cats, go catfishing and catch carp. You can't win.

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Tell me anything you see in this coin that creates value. The obverse is discolored with evident environmental damage from K10 to K4, no hope of restoration at all. Reverse rim chink. It deserved to be in a Mason jar.

Honestly, where is the value here?


IMHO I think even if it isn't intrinsically valuable it's still a great find for a garage sale. Value and beauty are in the eye of the cent holder. I may pay $10 because that's all I feel it's worth, while someone who's sentimintally attached to it may pay $100. That's supply and demand
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 Posted 10/01/2018  8:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USSID18 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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It deserved to be in a Mason jar.


Throw it back in a mason jar? Really? That coin would look great in my old beat-up 1909-1940 Whitman folder.
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 Posted 10/01/2018  8:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
With the absence of the die markers, it's a well struck business strike. Not the matte proof unfortunately.
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 Posted 10/01/2018  8:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mark1959 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Tell me anything you see in this coin that creates value.


I never mentioned value - I can give a crap about money. Money makes people turn weird. I'm an old country boy that to me life means happiness to have a good woman, a good truck, and a good dog!
Ya know whats funny? I brought out my 1857 FE's to day for a pic and I found out I actually had 2 1955 Doubled dies. I thought I only had one. HA! Actually does pay to check into your coin collection every now and then!!
Tom might flip about this one!! I was amazed these were in pretty good condition!





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