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1944-D Lincoln Cent - RPM, but which one? New RPM?

 
 
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 Posted 10/09/2018  9:54 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I've probably spent way too much time staring at this 1944-D Lincoln Cent RPM, but it has me stumped.

It clearly is a D/D ENE. It has a distinct vertical line through the primary D, and the secondary D is visible above and east of the primary D. I cannot find a listed D/D North, Northeast, or East that has both the vertical line and the amount of separation shown by this RPM.

There is also a weak vertical line south of the interior of the primary mm, accompanied by a weak curve to the east. While not clear enough to be sure, it could suggest a third mm punch south of the primary. I can't find any listed variety with a secondary E/NE and a tertiary mark south.

There is also a very weak diagonal NE-SW line immediately west of the primary mm. That could be a die scratch (probably) or possibly the remnant of a fourth, tilted mm (less likely).

This RPM lacks many of the die markers for the most likely suspects.

VV RPM-009 (Wexler's WRPM-013) is the closest, but that coin's line through the primary mm doesn't extend all the way and its secondary mm is not separated as far east. My coin also lacks the obverse and reverse die markers of RPM-009/WRPM-013.

I can't find any of the non-CONECA parallel listings on coppercoins.com or doubleddie.com that are close to this one.

I'd sure welcome any input.

Here are the obligatory mug shots:



And the date and mm location photos:



And two closeups of the mm. The angled shot shows the RPM best.



I have additional photos and can sure post more, if that would be helpful.

Thanks much!
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 Posted 10/09/2018  10:20 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd say it isn't an RPM, but I might be wrong.
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 Posted 10/10/2018  10:47 am  Show Profile   Check CoinCollector2000's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2000 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm seeing a circulated coin with some hits on the mintmark - not an RPM
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 Posted 10/10/2018  11:23 am  Show Profile   Check 3193zd's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 3193zd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see some of what you are describing as a second punch E and NE of the predominant punch. Very faint but you see the curve of the top of the D and inside the dominant D, is a vertical line, I assume, of the inside back of the second D punch. Maybe?
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 Posted 10/10/2018  1:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
But most of the area you are seeing are from die flow on the coin. Not a RPM from what I can see.
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