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 Posted 10/12/2018  02:24 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add FuzzyDuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Is anyone able to help me identify this badly worn roman coin? It's probably the size of a British 2 pence and quite heavy.
Thanks in advance

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 Posted 10/12/2018  09:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jskirwin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Given the purported size (25 mm) it's likely a sestertius or as.
My guess is Vespasian or one of his sons Titus or Domitian.
On the reverse I see a figure standing, left arm holding something.
Titus RIC 441 perhaps (just a guess)

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10/12/2018 09:51 am
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 Posted 10/13/2018  06:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think this is Vespasian - I reckon I can just about make out VESP[ASIAN] behind the head. The portrait is right for him, but as Jskirwin has said, the portrait for Titus is quite similar too.

The figure on the reverse is less clear, but looks to be holding a cornucopia and standing left. There are a few goddesses who it could be. If they are holding something in their right hand, that would narrow it down. The coin is probably something like this:
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 Posted 10/13/2018  11:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FuzzyDuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for taking the time to help. I'll do a bit more research. Out of currisosity, the reverse is very black, but I can see bits underneath but cannot get any more dirt off after soaking in olive oil and then distilled water. Is it likely black patina or just very stubborn dirt? I can also see SC Senatus consulto on the reverse
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 Posted 10/15/2018  11:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The black is probably patina - the metal showing through means you've either overcleaned it (unlikely, seems you know what you're doing!) or the patina was no good to begin with. I doubt there's anything more to be done with it that would improve it. A good way to show up some details hidden in the dark patina is to press the coin into some foil - especially thin foil, like you get with a kitkat - the contrast is better that way.
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 Posted 10/15/2018  7:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's made of orichalcum (a form of brass); it's patina is naturally black, just like modern brass.
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 Posted 10/16/2018  03:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The bust appears to have traces of a radiate crown.
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 Posted 10/16/2018  06:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FuzzyDuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry for my lack of knowledge but what would a radiate crown imply?
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 Posted 10/16/2018  1:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The radiate crown would indicate that this is a dupondius (as opposed to the smaller denomination 'As' or larger denomination sestertius).
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