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1943 Steel Wheat- Minting Error Or Somebody's Handy Work?

 
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 Posted 11/13/2018  7:57 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add j0b to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Picked up this 1943 Lincoln steel wheat at an auction. Thought it was a blank obverse as the old cardboard flip stated but once I got home to really examine it, I saw a profile and what looks like the reverse somewhat enlarged over top. Opinions?


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 Posted 11/13/2018  8:01 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To CCF! What you have here is called a Brockage. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brockage

Sorry Coinfrog, but that's not the case at all. It's a genuine error coin.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
Machine Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Split Plate Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/357614
2000 P LMC With Retained Struck Through error. http://goccf.com/t/357080
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 Posted 11/13/2018  8:25 pm  Show Profile   Check Tanman2001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Tanman2001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
with brockage.

You can tell that it's not a vice job since the rims are still raised and the impression from the reverse side of the coin is distorted and much larger than the actual design. A vice job could not perfectly replicate this distortion.

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11/13/2018 8:27 pm
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 Posted 11/13/2018  8:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add j0b to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is it worth getting slabbed? I have a few 1943 Steels already, will add this to the collection. but was wondering inorder to preserve it and if somebody offered down the road.
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 Posted 11/13/2018  8:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm generally against slabbing, but in the case of a steel cent like this I might make an exception (to avoid surface rusting from moisture, especially if you live in a high humidity area and don't have a low-humidity storage system for your coins). I'll be interested to see what others think.

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 Posted 11/13/2018  8:55 pm  Show Profile   Check Tanman2001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Tanman2001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I'm generally against slabbing, but in the case of a steel cent like this I might make an exception (to avoid surface rusting from moisture, especially if you live in a high humidity area and don't have a low-humidity storage system for your coins). I'll be interested to see what others think.


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 Posted 11/13/2018  9:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with spence but I also think that the coin should be slabbed because IMO it's a particularly valuable error, and having it slabbed makes it easier to get much more for it than if you sold it raw.
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 Posted 11/13/2018  9:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Something happened to my original reply, but I see clearly that it was in haste and my apology. A brockage for sure.


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 Posted 11/13/2018  9:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add j0b to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I appreciate all the info. Thanks for welcoming me. This is a great forum!!
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 Posted 11/14/2018  11:49 am  Show Profile   Check CoinCollector2000's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2000 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
An amazing brockage! Very beautiful error
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Looks like a brockage. I'd have it slabbed by a TPG to protect it from the elements.

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Very nice!

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Very nice find.
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Richard S. Cooper
Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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