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1964 D LMC I Know Its A DDO But Cannot Match It. Insight Please.

 
 
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 Posted 11/21/2018  2:22 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Jim0815 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I found this 1964 D LMC and believe it to be a DDO but cannot match it anywhere. There looks like there is an extra horizontal bar to the right of the first T in TRUST and an extra horizontal bar to the right of the second T in TRUST. There is what appears to be a die gouge that goes through the upper pat of the first T in TRUST but you can definitely see the extension to the left. I am at a loss on this and need some insight please.





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 Posted 11/21/2018  2:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry,does not look like a DDO to me.
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 Posted 11/21/2018  2:47 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
On the last "T", there's definitely doubling. It's a minor DDO. I think it's a new, unlisted Doubled Die.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
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1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
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The doubling on the first T can be explained by the gouge. The second T could be a minor DDO with a partial extra horizontal bar to the right, but with something so small it hard to differentiate a DDO from a gouge.
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 Posted 11/21/2018  3:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Tanman2001 has the correct answer. Note how it disappears behind the device? The die gouge is on the fields of the die, which are the outside part of the die. Any contact mark on the fields will make a mark on the fields of the coin raised (raised as it is incuse on the die) and looks like it flows behind the devices. Doubled dies also affect the fields. The hubbing causes devices to be enlarged and the field areas are reduced making the area on the coins devices enlarged. Thus the term Doubled Die, as the doubling is on the die. So it is a die gouge that you are seeing.



Note on the last one. Why is this one a die gouge and not a die crack? because a die crack would run across the top of the device, this flows behind the devices.
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