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What Is Your Favorite Colonial Coin ?

 
 
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*** Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. Previoulsy posted in US Classic and Colonial Variety and Error Coins. ***



I am a newbie at collection colonial coins , I personally like them all . I know there are a lot of them , what do you prefer ? Large cents , Half Cents , fugio , baker ,etc. ?
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I think they are all really cool. The earlier the better. I think Pine or Oak Tree Shillings and Vermont copper landscapes are my favorites. But that's probably because I don't own any yet.
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I am not sure I can pick a favorite, but I do like the Rosa Americana coins. I would love to have a Higley, but that is not gonna happen!
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 Posted 02/26/2019  2:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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, what do you prefer ? Large cents , Half Cents , fugio

None of those are colonials, the state coppers and the vermont coppers are not colonials either.
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Condor, when does the colonial period end in terms of colonial coinage? I had thought it ended when the constitution was ratified (so Fugios would fall under them). Thanks!
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While technically not Colonials, state coppers and the like have always been collected under the "colonial" banner. Even the "Colonial Newsletter" one of the original publications for colonials has always been heavily State coppers. Todays "C4" "Colonial Coin Collectors club" is also heavily State coppers. Heck I've been collecting them for over forty years and while not technically correct I still call them colonials. I suppose pre Federal or early American would be better.
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Condor, when does the colonial period end in terms of colonial coinage? I had thought it ended when the constitution was ratified (so Fugios would fall under them).

I would say when the Treaty of Paris was signed in 1783 and they had actually won their independence. (July 1776 was when we DECLARED our independence, 1783 was when we actually BECAME independent.) Until that time they were still colonies, just colonies in rebellion. And then also in 1783 they ratified the Articles of Confederation and became States of the larger Federal Union. (Vermont was not a part of the Confederation, it could best be described as being an independent country. It didn't become a state until 1791.) The Fugio was an issuance of the new Federal Government, not a colony. The issues of CT, NJ, and MA were issues of the States after they ceased to be colonies. This was permitted by the Articles of Confederation. The Federal government set the standards but the states were allow to issue coinage to those standards. Once the Constitution was ratified the states lost the right to create their own money. (The question about when the Constitution was ratified has its own problems. The standard answer is 1787 when 9 states had ratified it, that being the 2/3rd required as stated in the Constitution itself. But that was kind of a circular reasoning, a change in the ratification rules contained in the document that is being ratified. That shouldn't be possible because until it is ratified those rules don't apply. The rules that applied should have been the rules under the Articles of Confederation which required UNANIMOUS consent. The last of the 13 states didn't ratify the Constitution until 1791.
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That makes sense - thanks!

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Thanks so much for all the information Conder101 ! I was wrong personally about the large cent and Half Cent , I meant to mentioned earlier coinage . I don't believe you mentioned , what is your favorite colonial coin ?
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Probably the Virginia Halfpenny. There really aren't that many true colonials that were actually authorized issues and actually intended for circulation in the colonies, and most of those are rather expensive (Authorized issues being the Massachusetts silver, Lord Baltimore coinage, and William Wood's Rosa Americana coinage). But the Virginia half penny has the distinction of being the only colonial piece actually authorized by the British government for circulation here and they are available in fairly decent condition without costing an arm and a leg. They also have many die varieties but are not widely collected by variety.ven easy to locate a reference on the varieties. Even Bowers book on the colonials lists less than half of them but lists most of the varieties on everything else.
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