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First 2019 P LSC Doubled Die Reverse Discovered By Seller On Ebay

 
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 Posted 03/06/2019  11:07 pm Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Looks like the real deal apparently. Now we need a Doubled Die Obverse to be discovered. 264216045720
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Edited by Errers and Varietys
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 Posted 03/06/2019  11:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add levelsofmadnes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have yet to see one 2019 cent. I think all of the shield cents are boring and hoping the mint comes out with a different design.
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Levelsofmadnes, so far, I have only seen one from 2019. And yes, I do agree that the LSC's are boring. They're only good for Doubled Dies pretty much.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
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 Posted 03/07/2019  12:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wrongnumber to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You've only seen one coin total so far? Bank probably had whole box or 2 here but I only grabbed a few rolls. Cracked some & rest got put away. Nothing to note. I see the thickness but I would never buy that & would most likely toss or overlook.
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Yep. I've seen only one so far, and it came from a customer wrapped roll I was going through last month. This DDR is definitely not worth that price. I rather find it CRH myself than buying one.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Edited by Errers and Varietys
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 Posted 03/07/2019  01:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's neat to see some 2019 varieties popping up here and there, but not particularly excited about shield cent Doubled Dies, unless it's as significant as the 2014 and 2015 "big ones". Never the less, it's a cool find. Not sure it's worth what they're asking though. Nice catch E&V.

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 Posted 03/07/2019  02:11 am  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
CH27, I hope more Doubled Dies will be discovered for this year. Hopefully, it will be something like 2018 WDDO-001.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
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 Posted 03/07/2019  04:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have not seen any 2019's yet. I noticed the 2018-D's that the reverse's are "puffy" looking but I do not think they are DDR. I am not convinced that that 2019 on the bay is a true DDR,if anything maybe a master die doubling? I am wrong about 20% of the time you know though
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 Posted 03/07/2019  07:14 am  Show Profile   Check Tanman2001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Tanman2001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd be hesitant to call this a DDR until I saw it in hand. The seller's photos have a lot of glare and a handful of their doubled dies for sale aren't what they say they are.

And even if it is a DDR, I don't think it's worth the price.
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Yeah Tanmam. I have noticed that too. Most of their supposedly called "Doubled Dies" aren't even one.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
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 Posted 03/07/2019  5:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In spite of the somewhat blurry images, the DDR coin (Philly) does show thickness compared to his other example. Specifically the vertical leg of the L.
IMHO I would say it is a DDR.

Almost all years of Denver LSC's do show a thickness to the initials which is not hub doubling.
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 Posted 03/07/2019  6:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add levelsofmadnes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
how boring are the LSC? I still got almost a full box of 2018 to go thru; had that box for about a month now.
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 Posted 03/07/2019  8:17 pm  Show Profile   Check Tanman2001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Tanman2001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Almost all years of Denver LSC's do show a thickness to the initials which is not hub doubling.


On another note, that's precisely why I disagree with the listing of 2010-D WDDR-001. I don't see how that one is any thicker than the usual Denver coin.


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how boring are the LSC? I still got almost a full box of 2018 to go thru; had that box for about a month now.


There's only one DDO currently listed for 2018 (and if I remember correctly, the number may go up to three once Wexler updates his site). Shield Cents haven't been very good for varieties in the past few years. 2016-2018 have been more or less a dud, only one moderately strong DDO per year and absolutely no significant DDRs. 2011, 2014, and 2015 are the ones to look at.
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 Posted 03/14/2019  11:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I took the plunge figuring I could return it if not.

It's a DDR with lite thickness and even a little notching if my images show it well enough.

Since there is no telling when DD will be updated I wanted some confirmation for myself for potential varieties for 2019.

Seems to be MDs with die flow lines but minimal to no Die deterioration. What he indicated as a reverse marker appears to be a die flow line. There is a N-S die scratch on the C (CENT) and possible crack on the East end of the vert. bar of the T (CENT) and possible early signs of it extending to the bottom right leg of the last A MERICA). Having trouble getting the lightly raised area(lite bumps) to show up between the scroll and A








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 Posted 03/17/2019  12:03 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Petespockets55, it's definitely a genuine DDR.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
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 Posted 03/17/2019  9:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks E&V. Just wanted to confirm so we know the varieties have started.
I was pretty sure from the sellers comparison collage. With DoubledDies.com being so far behind updating there is no way to tell if the seller may have submitted one. Hopefully the varieties don't end with this one.

Odd that the seller was from deep in Denver territory and finding a Philly variety. (Las Vegas, Nevada)
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