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2003 D LMC Lds Curious Extra Thickness And Potential Notching?

 
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 Posted 03/31/2019  10:18 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add CouchDiver1978 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I can't find anything on Wexler variety Vista or copper coins concerning DDO examples for the 2003 d. I found this coin and had to go ahead and post given the clarity of some of the pictures that I got. Specifically, I'd like you guys to take a look at the TRU in Trust and the TY in Liberty and let me know what you think. I typically wouldn't post anything this late-stage, especially combined with something unproven for the year but had to throw it out there, if for nothing other than a learning experience on what not to look for. Cheers!
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 Posted 04/01/2019  05:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not seeing a DDO. The only thing that catches my eye is the Y in LIBERTY,the right arm looks a bit thick. Where are you seeing notching?
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 Posted 04/01/2019  9:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CouchDiver1978 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
On the left vertical bar, bottom right side, on the letter r in Trust, there appears to be a very small notch similar in magnitude to the inside spread apparent on the same letter towards the middle of the device.

I was thinking that the Y in Liberty looks thick as well and , was spreading he wrong way oh, i.e. towards the center, to be soly LSDD or DF related. Also perhaps on the letter u as well. I see what you mean by the rest of the coin I think, though I'm still learning how to look at these things, the only Distortion and discoloration that can be seen and the actual field is around that letter y. And only very minimally so at that but it does look like a little something right?
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 Posted 04/02/2019  04:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not familiar with LSDD or DF,what do they stand for?
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 Posted 04/02/2019  07:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CouchDiver1978 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, LSDD should mean (late stage die deterioration doubling) DF is just die fatigue.I should have said DDD
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 Posted 04/04/2019  6:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CouchDiver1978 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi John1. Hopefully this is a better picture of the Y in Liberty.
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 Posted 04/04/2019  7:01 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, but I am not seeing it.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
Machine Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Split Plate Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/357614
2000 P LMC With Retained Struck Through error. http://goccf.com/t/357080
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 Posted 04/05/2019  07:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Still not seeing a DDO,sorry.
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 Posted 04/05/2019  11:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CouchDiver1978 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No problem I was just posting because you said that there was something that might look interesting and I felt like I had a better picture. Thanks for taking a look.
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 Posted 04/05/2019  11:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CouchDiver1978 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you EnV for taking a look as well.
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 Posted 04/05/2019  11:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CouchDiver1978 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is probably a dead topic or rapidly becoming so, hopefully you guys will see my question before moving on. My question being does either one of you have or know any good links to high resolution pictures that show planchette field distortion due to being struck by a doubled die?
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 Posted 04/05/2019  11:59 am  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
CouchDiver1978, try this one. http://doubleddie.com/1542214.html
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
Machine Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Split Plate Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/357614
2000 P LMC With Retained Struck Through error. http://goccf.com/t/357080
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 Posted 04/05/2019  3:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Images are too close to see what is really going on.




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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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 Posted 04/07/2019  1:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CouchDiver1978 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks guys!
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 Posted 04/16/2019  07:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CouchDiver1978 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm meant post this reply a long time ago Coop, apologies.



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 Posted 04/16/2019  08:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Much better images. I see a lot of die flow on the fields. This indicates that the dies were getting very close to retirement. Their appears to be some very light Machine Doubling on the motto devices. Looks like you have a nice software program? But a 100% improvement. Thanks. Now we can see what you have on your coin. Although this is not a keeper coin, now we can look forward to greater images on the next one.
Richard S. Cooper
Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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