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"Cleaned With Only Soap, Water And A Very Fine Nylon Brush, Rotory Tool"

 
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 Posted 04/23/2019  3:11 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add SelectCoinCanada to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I don't have the heart to message this seller...but I know someone here is up to the task. They are so proud of their cleaning job that they posted before and after pics, and included their method of choice.

I stumbled upon the listing after looking at the sellers 1935 silver dollar which suffered the same fate.

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Canadian-Ru...AOSwKhFcmlDs

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 Posted 04/23/2019  3:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SelectCoinCanada to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are some pics for reference...


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 Posted 04/23/2019  3:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fioti to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What a shame. What initially got me, were the blue dots showing the dei (sic) cracks.
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 Posted 04/23/2019  3:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
He turned a $200 coin into a $5 coin with the "cleaning"... and he brags about it as GREAT for the coin.
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 Posted 04/23/2019  6:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 04/23/2019  6:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That seller deserves the 2019 Golden Facepalm Award.

Oh my.

It's just shiny shrapnel now.
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 Posted 04/23/2019  6:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ouch
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 Posted 04/23/2019  7:20 pm  Show Profile   Check Wade's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Wade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
He turned a $200 coin into a $5 coin with the "cleaning"


I think $5 would be optimistic...


message to seller sent,
PLEASE do do not clean, brush or especially "whiz" any coin with a rotatory tool.
Although it may "look better" (all shiny and such) you are actually destroying the coin's footprints in history, and as such have killed the collector value of the coin. It will take another 150 years to undo what you have done. PLEASE STOP.
As an avid collector of pre 1858 Canadian tokens I can assure you that you have taken a $200 (rare in this condition) token and turned it in to an (at best) $5 piece.
Before you touch any other coin please refer to many discussions at coincommunity.com, or at the very least post your coins RAW and see what happens.
yours sincerely,
one sad collector :(
Edited by Wade
04/23/2019 7:40 pm
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 Posted 04/23/2019  7:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A lot of value has been lost, along with (probably) a nice patina.
However,
lots of detector finds recovered from ground burial have been cleaned with an old electric tooth brush.
Needed, simply to be cleaned enough to enable identification.

Nevertheless, I suspect that this item was never a detector find. Perhaps treatment with VerdiCare would have been better in this case, to retain a reasonable patina.
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 Posted 04/23/2019  8:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add llewellin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah the bright side is there's no more verdigris on the coin

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 Posted 04/23/2019  8:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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What a shame.



My thought exactly.
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 Posted 04/24/2019  10:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SelectCoinCanada to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Wade, I couldn't resist and messaged them as well, in the most sincere words possible I informed them of their mistake and offered my advice anytime they need it. Unfortunately our efforts have somehow had ill-effect, the seller has INCREASED the price from $200CAD to $500USD($668CAD)
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 Posted 04/24/2019  11:01 am  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That seller has no brains at all! That poor coin! What a shame! The value of that coin has been pretty much completely destroyed, because of that seller's stupid actions!
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
Machine Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Split Plate Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/357614
2000 P LMC With Retained Struck Through error. http://goccf.com/t/357080
Edited by Errers and Varietys
04/24/2019 11:04 am
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 Posted 04/24/2019  11:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add llewellin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Probably a troll at this point - sometimes people do this just to get a rise out of collectors, I saw it on this forum in the past
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 Posted 04/24/2019  11:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ironhorse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
considering only the before picture...it's might seem that the 'original' condition appears dirty, corroded, possibly already cleaned, and so on....all negative labels it would have received in any case

I sure do not condone those actions at all

I can imagine that the seller is now amazed at the traffic their token is now receiving and considers that a sign of interest, the auction results will speak for themselves and the $500 is just wishful thinking and $5 appraisals given here will no doubt prevail
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 Posted 04/24/2019  11:48 am  Show Profile   Check nickelsguy's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You can not fix stupid.
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