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 Posted 05/14/2019  9:12 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add EnigmaOfTruth to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello!
I was hoping to get some help identifying a coin that I have been unable to find any information on. It looks more like a circular-esque chunk of brass with characters on it, but has no basic identifying markings that a regular coin would have. I'm wondering if it dates back to a time before these, and was wondering if anyone knew some sort of information about it. Below are pictures of the front and back at different orientations and of the thickness from the side, along with the rough indentations.




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 Posted 05/14/2019  10:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks to be an Indian 'dump' paisa, of one of the Indian princely states.

Without identification, a $5 coin, with full identification from $10 upwards in this condition.
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 Posted 05/15/2019  02:17 am  Show Profile   Check spruett001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spruett001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Indian was my guess, but I know very, very little about it.
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 Posted 05/15/2019  2:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This may make it easier for people to examine without the wasted area.
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 Posted 05/16/2019  02:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
At the bottom of the second pic is a partial date -171 in Arabic or Urdu numerals. Assuming that to be 1171 AH, the date is about 1757. drnsreedhar is the resident expert at these coins - I would reach out to him.
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 Posted 05/16/2019  03:19 am  Show Profile   Check spruett001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spruett001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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drnsreedhar is the resident expert at these coins - I would reach out to him.


I already did last night. Hopefully he will chime in.
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Thank you for the post. This coin can be of later Mughal period or of Princely state of Arcot, most likely the former because on the Arcot issues, the side with date is usually different.
The pattern with three vertical lines with hook above is characteristic of later Mughal issues from Peninsular India. Elichpur, Machlipatan and Hyderabad coins of Aurangazeb in this pattern are not uncommon. The pattern has continued over the period of his successors. Here is an example of Muhammad shah (1131-61.AH) issue

Here is another example of an issue of Shah Alam-II (1174-1221.AH)

(the date on the coin could be 1193 or 1194.AH)
As Finn has shown, the date is 1171.AH. This corresponds to Aziz ud din Alamgir-II period.
From these two examples, it is evident that the pattern was there before and after Alamgir-II. We can safely put it to that period - Mughal, Alamgir-II, 1167-1173.AH.

The other side shows the mint. Unfortunately, I am unable to read it to satisfaction. You can find the denomination depending on its weight. Thanks

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Wow, great information, @drnsreedhar, and nice job on the date, Finn!
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