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1943-S LWC : Is This A Grease Error On "4" And MM?

 
 
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 Posted 05/19/2019  02:22 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Eye4Error to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I am not quite sure about this one... THX

Sorry about bad IMGs... as of late my micro-cam is crapping out :(



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05/19/2019 02:29 am
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Actually this shows it a bit better... has more contrast.
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 Posted 05/19/2019  02:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eye4Error to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe the MM has a die wear issue... but looks like a grease thing going on too?
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 Posted 05/19/2019  03:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eye4Error to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ha found my answer in another post... THX COOP for the answer below lol


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The coin has been reprocessed. This is seen with the missing 4 a lot this year. Steel dies, steel planchets. That was hard on the dies. There was also a problem with die clashes on that year. They are more common possibly because of the roughness of the zinc on the planchets.
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 Posted 05/19/2019  10:55 am  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely has been reprocessed.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
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 Posted 05/19/2019  4:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eye4Error to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for your input EV...

I went on a search quest and found a similar post that Coop had replied too... Now I need to educate myself about reprocessed coins because I hadn't come across that term yet...
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 Posted 05/19/2019  10:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Steel cents were coated with zinc making them not shiny.

When they reprocess them with zinc they are a bit harder to tell from the originals, but they have zinc added to the previous surface and look lumpy. Other times these coins turned rusty and they buff off the rust and plate them. If a single coat of plating is added it will be to shiny and reflect too much light. (note image above) When they are reprocessed, the value is reduced a lot in value as seasoned collectors want the original finish. Errors on this years coins have a higher value, except for the die clashed examples. They happened more often that year.
Preprocessed error coin



Normal Steel Cents:






High grade example:

Note, not shiny.
Poor attempt at processing:



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