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 Posted 06/25/2019  10:43 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Nydia to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
all over the place, started coin searching just a few months ago while recovering from donating kidney to husband, why I even started I don't know. ITS EXTREMLY addicting an I still have no clue what I'm looking at when looking at my coins. I read try to compare my coins to the other coin reference like copper coins, Wexler, Lincoln errors and so on but the one I have aren't excatley like the pictures. and if you can tell me how you could determine a true error or double die
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 Posted 06/25/2019  11:23 am  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A normal coin with circulation wear and flattening. No errors here.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
Machine Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Split Plate Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/357614
2000 P LMC With Retained Struck Through error. http://goccf.com/t/357080
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 Posted 06/25/2019  2:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Something to think about when you look at the sites to see what is a doubled die and what is normal. If you have editing software, then you could make a side by side of a your coin and one of the doubled dies your trying to compare with. Sometimes seeing them side by side helps to see why they are or aren't a doubled die.

Can you see the difference on these two images? What I did was created a side by side exactly the same width. Then put the images together side by side. Now you can see without transferring your eyes, from a site to your coin. Sometimes doing it not side by side, you loose minor perspective. But seeing them side by side, helps you to focus the differences. This works so many ways. Let say you want to compare small date and a large date side by side:

Seeing them side by side helps your eyes to see the differences Now can you see the differences on the small and large date 1970-S?)
Sometimes I use them to compare doubled dies from each other. What does that mean? On the 1972 DDO's there are many. Of the first 8, they are all the same class of doubled dies. Class 1:


Did you note the small images on the lower page? This is the differences of of the doubled directions. While all the images look the same at first, when you study them for a time, the ones on the right are CCW (Counter-Clock-Wise) and on the left they are CW (Clock-Wise) Well the dies for 1972 are some of each. So matching them up to find out which die you have found. I make side by sides of the ones that are in common:

Note that dies 002 &007 are the same direction.
Dies 003 & 008 are the same direction:

Having images side by side helps you see the differences. One is rotated stronger and the other one is rotated weaker. 002 and 008 are the more stronger rotated examples above. 003 & 007 are rotated less. As you study them side by side, I discovered the 003 and 008 are different on the date.:

Having them side by side, helped me to see the differences. Another thing I noticed comparing the different doubled dies that year was on the date, the '9' was affected on all 8 of these. Not just to ID them with, but to figure out what was the look of a regular date and a doubled die of the 1-9 dies:

Can you see the images with arrows on the image above? That will help you to tell from that digit, what a regular coin would look like and what a doubled die would look like. Can you see the differences? Now when you see a 1972 cent, you will look there first. If you see the distorted digit on the '9'. that one is a keeper. If not, put it back in circulation.
So in order to start seeing stuff faster, you need to know what is normal and what is a doubled die. Making side by sides helps a lot.

CoopHome : Side by Sides SBS
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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