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1940 S LWC Die Cud Or Crack?

 
 
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 Posted 07/13/2019  07:59 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Datguyy77 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
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Hello again. Was wondering if this is a die crack or cud?



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 Posted 07/13/2019  08:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@DG77, that is a really interesting coin. I'm excited that you posted it because you actually have two die cracks, one on the obv that you have pointed out in the first pics. However, a second one is also visible on the rev in the wheat. Both of them appear to go rim-to-rim and thus perhaps could be described as "pre-cuds". One website which tracks this sort of thing is cuds-on-coins. Others will have to weigh in, but yours might be RCD-1c-1940S-16 Stage A & 17R. Here is a link:

http://cuds-on-coins.com/lincoln-ce...-cuds-1940s/

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 Posted 07/13/2019  09:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You have a coin struck with a cracked die.
The be a cud the cracked piece of the die has to have fallen off and is no longer available to strike a coin, hence a blob on the coin where the die used to be.

BTW nice die crack.
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 Posted 07/13/2019  09:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice die crack, good eye!



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 Posted 07/13/2019  10:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


The 1940-S cents are notorious for die cracks and retained cuds. They are definitely a pleasure to search for errors and for varieties. Your coin is a wonderful find and a definite keeper.

The San Francisco mint had fairly low mintages of cents throughout the wheat series. During the depression, San Francisco mintages peaked in 1939 at 52 million after a few years in the 30s millions and several years before that with little or no production. In 1940, however, production demands abruptly more than doubled (almost 113 million), and they extended die life to the point of die failure and beyond to meet production goals.
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Thanks fellas!& 😀
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 Posted 07/13/2019  10:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Datguyy77 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I had read about the low mintages also. I also have 39d and s wheat cents
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Very nice Rim To Rim Die Crack! It appears to be on its way to become a Retained Cud.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
Machine Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Split Plate Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/357614
2000 P LMC With Retained Struck Through error. http://goccf.com/t/357080
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 Posted 07/13/2019  1:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Panther to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Are there known examples of retained Cuds on 1940-S LWC that may be a post version of this coin, or was this die changed before it reached that stage ?

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